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08-25-2005 02:57 PM

AKo drawing on monotone board - turn?
 
Online 2/4 - Very loose passive table. I've got a tight image but nobody at the table cares.

Hero has A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Two posters at UTG+1 and CO. CO is unknown.

Preflop: UTG folds, UTG+1 checks, I raise, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, Blinds call.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)

3 checks, I bet, MP1 calls, CO raises, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, I raise and they all call.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)

2 checks, I bet, MP1 calls, CO raises, SB folds, UTG+1 calls, I ???

It's not close right?

Thanks for any responses.

Edit: Sorry if the layout looks a bit off. I had to enter it manually. Also, fixed Turn action.. should be UTG+1 that called 2 cold.

imported_CaseClosed326 08-25-2005 03:01 PM

Re: AKo drawing on monotone board - turn?
 
I don't think you raise, I would just call and raise the river if I fill up or hit a flush.

kyro 08-25-2005 03:22 PM

Re: AKo drawing on monotone board - turn?
 
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I don't think you raise, I would just call and raise the river if I fill up or hit a flush.

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Why wouldn't you raise? It doesn't look like anyone else is dropping out and you surely have more than 25% equity in this pot. I say get more money in.

Sarge85 08-25-2005 03:23 PM

Re: AKo drawing on monotone board - turn?
 
I still raise here.

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hoi Polloi 08-25-2005 03:24 PM

Re: AKo drawing on monotone board - turn?
 
If CO's not nuts and thinking he can bluff all those callers he probably hit his flush. But, you've got a lot of outs against a set or flush. Call it down unless you improve.

imported_CaseClosed326 08-25-2005 03:26 PM

Re: AKo drawing on monotone board - turn?
 
Good point. So Hero three-bets and CO caps, and Hero does not hit anything on the river. What do we do then? The pot is huge, but is there any way Hero is ahead?

Sarge85 08-25-2005 03:29 PM

Re: AKo drawing on monotone board - turn?
 
Flush - meh

Possible? - sure it is, but look


A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on board
K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] my hand

J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on board

he could very likely have something like AQ with the Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or some other two pair.

He didn't call with big suited connectors, so it's tough to put him on a hand that beats us right now.

If he's a total fruitcake, it limits our hand reading a bit, but his raise on the flop, makes me think he definately doesn't have a flush, since we improved on the river, and have multiple outs to the nuts - I'm still getting my money in the middle.

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

rydazzle 08-25-2005 03:29 PM

Re: AKo drawing on monotone board - turn?
 
you could raise knowing CO will cap re-raise it since you might not get more than 1 BB from CO if a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] hits on the river. I think you have enought PE to do that here.

PTjvs 08-25-2005 03:30 PM

Re: AKo drawing on monotone board - turn?
 
Even if CO has us beat, we still have more than 25% equity in this 4way pot. Unless you think people will fold out, you can 3bet this turn, especially since you are ahead of 2 pair, or the unknown CO being a maniac here somewhat often.

I have noticed that almost all maniacs post instead of waiting for the blinds to come around at this level. Doesn't mean a whole lot, but something to consider.

jvs

rydazzle 08-25-2005 03:36 PM

Re: AKo drawing on monotone board - turn?
 
I dont think calling with 67[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],78[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is too fruitcake/maniac in late position for 1 SB (since he posted). I am thinking weak flush for CO here is major % but adding small % for other holdings as well.


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