Tough turn call...
 

Am I being to results oriented?

(sorry in advance, bison's converter isn't working)

$2/$4 Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, August 24, 00:56:43 EDT 2005
Table Table 37756 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 4: tetdenroi ( $166.75 )
Seat 5: cantalope15 ( $160.75 )
Seat 6: gobearsohwa ( $177.50 )
Seat 2: HERO ( $119 )
Seat 3: Thefunkdocta ( $54 )
Seat 8: shhhark ( $80 )
Seat 9: HanaHighway ( $89.50 )
Seat 10: AL5AcE_EB ( $90 )
Seat 1: Kizna ( $90 )
Seat 7: Keats8 ( $100 )
Thefunkdocta posts small blind [$1].
tetdenroi posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kh Ac ]
>You have options at Table 12118 Table!.
cantalope15 folds.
gobearsohwa folds.
>You have options at Bite the dust Table!.
shhhark raises [$4].
HanaHighway calls [$4].
>You have options at Table 11126 Table!.
AL5AcE_EB folds.
Kizna raises [$6].
HERO raises [$8].
Thefunkdocta folds.
tetdenroi folds.
shhhark calls [$4].
HanaHighway calls [$4].
Kizna calls [$2].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5d, Ts, Ad ]
>You have options at Table 12118 Table!.
>You have options at Table 11126 Table!.
shhhark checks.
HanaHighway bets [$2].
Kizna raises [$4].
>You have options at Bite the dust Table!.
HERO raises [$6].
shhhark calls [$6].
HanaHighway raises [$6].
Kizna calls [$4].
>You have options at Table 12118 Table!.
>You have options at Table 11126 Table!.
>You have options at Bite the dust Table!.
HERO calls [$2].
shhhark calls [$2].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jh ]
>You have options at Bite the dust Table!.
>You have options at Table 11126 Table!.
shhhark bets [$4].
HanaHighway raises [$8].
Kizna raises [$12].
HERO: wow
>You have options at Table 11126 Table!.
HERO folds.
>You have options at Table 12118 Table!.
shhhark calls [$8].
HanaHighway raises [$8].
Kizna calls [$4].
shhhark calls [$4].
** Dealing River ** [ Jc ]
>You have options at Table 11126 Table!.
shhhark checks.
HanaHighway bets [$4].
Kizna calls [$4].
shhhark calls [$4].
HanaHighway shows [ Ah, Th ] two pairs, aces and jacks.
Kizna shows [ As, Kd ] two pairs, aces and jacks.
shhhark doesn't show [ Td, Qs ] two pairs, jacks and tens.
Kizna wins $124 from the main pot with two pairs, aces and jacks with king kicker.

Anybody make this turn call? 1st raiser will probably cap so i'm calling 4 bb into a 22BB pot on the turn....i figured I had 4 outs too the win cause i thought the guy who bet out on the turn had pockets 10s or 5's....so i have 1:11 to hit the gutshot and i'm not getting odds for that here...even with implied odds i don't think i can call right?

Anybody make the guy for 2 pair and figure me for more outs on the turn....?

I guess what I'm asking is, did I give them too much credit?

Re: Tough turn call...
 

Remove the word "Texas" from your HH and refire the converter. It will work.

I figure someone for at least a set on the turn as the hand is played out. Without reads, I fold.

As it turns out, you had 8 outs on the turn to half the pot. Getting about 22:3 with the near certainty of a cap behind you, you made the correct fold anyway. Just like it would be correct to fold QdTd for 2 bets on a AdJdAsAc turn, even if the Kd comes on the river afterwards.

Re: Tough turn call...
 

No way with that board do you think TPTK is good enough after three bets. I do the same thing.

Also drawing to the gutshot no to calling 3 bets there.

Re: Tough turn call...
 

Would there be a certain aggression factor that 2 or 3 of these other players would have to have that would keep anyone in this hand? >3 ???

I'd have thought set as well. If I had stats on them and they were mostly very very aggressive, I may have closed my eyes and called it down, but more than likely I would have layed it down as well.