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Slimmah 08-23-2005 12:30 PM

30/60, bad turn, worse river, your action?
 
UTG+1 is the #1 donator in the world @ 60/30/1.5. He's very willing to c/r on a bluff at any moment.

SB is unknown, but hasn't got out of line yet. The SB pf cold-call surprised me, but I have been liberally isolating UTG+1, and people have started to notice.

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (9.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero ???

badinfluence 08-23-2005 12:45 PM

Re: 30/60, bad turn, worse river, your action?
 
seems like a pretty straight forward check to me. I think a bet here is one of those classic -EV situations. I am not clear what you would like them to call with. JJ? x9? 88? 77? etc.

If UTG is a bluffer, then a check seems even better, because if you bet, get called by SB and the UTG check raises you, now you have a very tough decision despite 13.5 to 1 on a call at this point.

So, I vote call.

Chief911 08-24-2005 11:06 AM

Re: 30/60, bad turn, worse river, your action?
 
Someone wants to check raise your ass.

jediael 08-24-2005 11:15 AM

Re: 30/60, bad turn, worse river, your action?
 
Checks.

08-24-2005 11:45 AM

Re: 30/60, bad turn, worse river, your action?
 
BET! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

drbk2 08-24-2005 01:42 PM

Re: 30/60, bad turn, worse river, your action?
 
Easy check.

Slimmah 08-24-2005 03:57 PM

Re: 30/60, bad turn, worse river, your action?
 
Board: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
What if the river is:
A) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
B) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
C) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

badinfluence 08-24-2005 05:20 PM

Re: 30/60, bad turn, worse river, your action?
 
a) check
b) check
c) check.

Slimmah 08-24-2005 09:37 PM

Re: 30/60, bad turn, worse river, your action?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Board: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
What if the river is:
A) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
B) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
C) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

In the original hand, I checked behind on the river, and I think it's the right play.
A) gives another overcard, fills the QJ draw, and I'm a pansy, so I check.
C) I really have to put somebody on a T or 9, so I'd check here.

But in case B) here, I'm leaning towards a bet.


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