Why would you ever use the \"loose games\" SSH chart?
 

The loose games SSH chart says it applies when there are 6-8 players on the flop on average. Let's assume that the blinds never fold and you play 17% of your hands. That means in every pot there will be 2.17 people in it to start. That means out of the remaining 7, 3.83 people need to be in the hand. That means the VPIP % would need to be 55%. I think it's pretty safe to say that you could go quite a long time without running into a table of this type. (Also, when you start to consider blinds not playing 100% the figure gets even higher.) Am I missing something?

Re: Why would you ever use the \"loose games\" SSH chart?
 

These games are not uncommon live. The last couple years at the low limit live games, I've definitely seen this type of lineup. Even at mid-limits these games exist. They're less common online, in my experience at the limits I play.

Regards,

T

Re: Why would you ever use the \"loose games\" SSH chart?
 

Or to summarize Sheridan's reply: get thee to a casino. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

7 to the flop is quite common at Foxwoods $2/4.

Re: Why would you ever use the \"loose games\" SSH chart?
 

I've found 6-7 to a flop to be quite common at the .25/.50 tables on Pokerroom.com Pokerroom posts, for each table, the avg. % to the flop, and it's not uncommon to find a table with between 60 and 70% to the flop.

Re: Why would you ever use the \"loose games\" SSH chart?
 

Thanks for the replys. I guess I should've specified that I play $1/2 - $3/6 online. When I do go to Vegas, you're right, sometimes the games do get this loose. I do see these games, especially at night when the card rooms are getting full.

Re: Why would you ever use the \"loose games\" SSH chart?
 

i was playing in a 4/8 game the other night where EVERYONE except me was in the pot THREE times in a ROW.

it is rare online, but i see 6+ to the flop in games as high as 2/4 sometimes.

Re: Why would you ever use the \"loose games\" SSH chart?
 

Never see them in 1/2 BUT you will in .£.5/1 at Crypto and that is ALMOST 1/2. $.99/1.8 at the moment.

Re: Why would you ever use the \"loose games\" SSH chart?
 

In Palm Desert a few weeks back, I was in a juicy 4/8 with a full kill (full kill means the stakes raise to 8/16 after someone wins 2 pots in a row, forgot it was the beginners forum ) [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] that was routinely 6+ to the TURN.

Re: Why would you ever use the \"loose games\" SSH chart?
 

In the local Indian Casino, I have never seen any game where there WASN'T 7 or 8 to the flop. I would also use the loose guidelines in one of the .5/1 beginner tables on Party if I was able to sit down in one.

Re: Why would you ever use the \"loose games\" SSH chart?
 

In the 4 months in Wisconsin that we had casino poker 10/20 games were 70% flops 100% of the time.