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08-15-2005 12:37 AM

Party skins with new update of Zonealarm - Anyone else?
 
A couple days ago, I updated my firewall (zonealarm).
Now when starting up a party skin, I get a warning pop-up that the app. is trying to track mouse movements, and would I like to prevent it from doing so? I figure why not. Party probably does enough snooping (and I'm not running pokeredge or other banned software).
The only noticable effect is that I can no longer chat. I see others chat, but mine is blocked. Strange?

bozlax 08-15-2005 12:39 AM

Re: Party skins with new update of Zonealarm - Anyone else?
 
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I get a warning pop-up that the app. is trying to track mouse movements

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No wonder Party, et al., are so freaking slow.

iluzion 08-15-2005 12:45 AM

Re: Party skins with new update of Zonealarm - Anyone else?
 
please post back if you have any problems because of that.

lucid 08-15-2005 05:52 AM

Re: Party skins with new update of Zonealarm - Anyone else?
 
They might use mouse movements to generate random data in order to make sure the dealing of cards is truly random.

Just a hunch...

admiralfluff 08-15-2005 07:47 AM

Re: Party skins with new update of Zonealarm - Anyone else?
 
worst hunch ever

Spook 08-15-2005 08:10 AM

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worst hunch ever

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Pokerstars does use mousemovements to generate their random numbers

TheIrishThug 08-15-2005 08:18 AM

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worst hunch ever

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Pokerstars does use mousemovements to generate their random numbers

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owned.

stigmata 08-15-2005 08:25 AM

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worst hunch ever

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Pokerstars does use mousemovements to generate their random numbers

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A) Do you have a reference for this (not that I don't believe you, just interested)?

B) Does OP now have the same problem with ZoneAlarm and PokerStars?

08-15-2005 10:50 AM

Re: Party skins with new update of Zonealarm - Anyone else?
 
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B) Does OP now have the same problem with ZoneAlarm and PokerStars?

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I haven't played stars since the upgrade. I'll report back when/if I do.

AngusThermopyle 08-15-2005 11:11 AM

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A) Do you have a reference for this (not that I don't believe you, just interested)?



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http://www.pokerstars.com/security.html

which says in part:

--Quote--

SHUFFLE

"Anyone who considers arithmetic methods of producing random digits is, of course, in a state of sin." - John von Neumann, 1951

We understand that a use of a fair and unpredictable shuffle algorithm is critical to our software. To ensure this and avoid major problems described in [2], we are using two independent sources of truly random data:

* user input, including summary of mouse movements and events timing, collected from client software
* true hardware random number generator developed by Intel [3], which uses thermal noise as an entropy source

Each of these sources itself generates enough entropy to ensure a fair and unpredictable shuffle.

--Unquote--


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