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whittiphil 08-14-2005 09:58 PM

AQo, why don\'t I let it go?
 
Trying to move up to 10c/25c... keep getting knocked back down. Where did I go wrong on this hand... should I have folded preflop? I really wasn't getting odds to call the allin was I?

Villain (the one who didn't get allin by calling), was 40/3.64/2

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) converter

Button ($22.90)
SB ($2.15)
BB ($13.35)
UTG ($20)
Hero ($56.70)
CO ($7.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $2.50, CO calls $2.50.

Flop: ($11.10) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7.75</font>, CO calls $3.80 (All-In), <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $19.4</font>, Hero calls $11.65.

Turn: ($53.70) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($53.70) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $53.70

djoyce003 08-14-2005 10:18 PM

Re: AQo, why don\'t I let it go?
 
wow...this is pretty bad man. I think that was a pretty easy check fold on the flop. He's reraised, which generally means a premium holding....most of the time you see a reraise it's at a minimum QQ or AK....most people don't reraise much. If you flopped an ace or a Q I still wouldn't feel great about your hand, but i'd feel better than on this flop. I realize you are just taking a shot hoping he's on missed overs, but you are risking this situation as well, which burned you...just not worth it here IMO.

whittiphil 08-14-2005 10:42 PM

Re: AQo, why don\'t I let it go?
 
thanks, I needed to hear that.

djoyce003 08-14-2005 10:44 PM

Re: AQo, why don\'t I let it go?
 
this is an OK move against a preflop raiser....but it's bad against a preflop re-raiser...that's the difference. Had the guy just raised to $1 and you called, taking a stab would be better IMO.

crosse91 08-14-2005 10:46 PM

Re: AQo, why don\'t I let it go?
 
the flop play is NO better no matter what.

djoyce003 08-14-2005 10:58 PM

Re: AQo, why don\'t I let it go?
 
there is nothing wrong with taking a stab at a pot against a preflop raiser if you think he's on whiffed overs...if you never bet except when you have things, you will be easy to read. As long as you don't make a habit out of it on every flop, its ok occasionally.

crosse91 08-14-2005 11:08 PM

Re: AQo, why don\'t I let it go?
 
and this makes the allin CALL after 2 all in players with ace high ok?

Triumph36 08-14-2005 11:09 PM

Re: AQo, why don\'t I let it go?
 
Fold to the re-raise pre-flop. You're out of position with AQo, what are you hoping to hit here? It sounds weak-tight, but there's really no way to make this situation profitable - and calling here gets you into situations like this where you suddenly decide opponent 'must' have AK and will fold to your bet.

djoyce003 08-14-2005 11:11 PM

Re: AQo, why don\'t I let it go?
 
no, I said the whole hand was bad. Leading the flop and calling the all-in were terrible. I was commenting that he might have been thinking he could steal this pot...and I was saying that if you want to try this move, do it when it's only been raised, not when it's been raised and reraised....IMO this was misplayed possibly on every street by hero.

erby 08-14-2005 11:31 PM

Re: AQo, why don\'t I let it go?
 
[ QUOTE ]
if you never bet except when you have things, you will be easy to read. As long as you don't make a habit out of it on every flop, its ok occasionally.

[/ QUOTE ]

I personally think that semi-bluffing when you have decent draw is a good way to keep people guessing...I mean...here, he might have to runner-runner QQ or the straight if he's called by AA...

ERBY [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]


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