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NiR 08-13-2005 05:12 PM

advise on a raise then pushed hand final 3.
 
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 2: crazy_doc ( $1980 )
Seat 3: kev1701 ( $3570 )
Seat 6: nir101684 ( $2450 )
Trny:14806423 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to nir101684 [ Kd Js ]
>You have options at Table 13878 Table!.
nir101684 raises [325].
crazy_doc is all-In [1905]
kev1701 folds.


i had reads but lets disregard it for now. what would you guys do in general without much reads.

Slim Pickens 08-13-2005 05:45 PM

Re: advise on a raise then pushed hand final 3.
 
What buy-in level is this?

That raise is not the kind I think you should make without a solid plan for what to do if you're reraised. I have no problem folding the hand at this point, and I also would have raised to 500 preflop.

SlimP

swiftrhett 08-13-2005 08:33 PM

Re: advise on a raise then pushed hand final 3.
 
I fold, no question.

raptor517 08-13-2005 09:01 PM

Re: advise on a raise then pushed hand final 3.
 
autofold. if its not, plug them leaks [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] holla

camo1131 08-13-2005 09:35 PM

Re: advise on a raise then pushed hand final 3.
 
Dont mean to hijack but what if we change the situation a little bit, lets say:

Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: crazy_doc ( $2100 )
Seat 3: kev1701 ( $2900 )
Seat 6: nir101684 ( $2000 )
Seat 7: xxxxxxxxx ( $3000 )
Trny:14806423 Level:6
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to nir101684 [ Kd Js ]
Seat 7: xxxxxxxxx folds

Is this still an easy fold?

adanthar 08-13-2005 09:47 PM

Re: advise on a raise then pushed hand final 3.
 
Of course not.

camo1131 08-13-2005 09:50 PM

Re: advise on a raise then pushed hand final 3.
 
OK, is bubble or the blinds at 200/400 that makes this a autopush as oppossed to the previous situation. They both contribute, but which moreso?

Slim Pickens 08-15-2005 12:22 PM

Re: advise on a raise then pushed hand final 3.
 
[ QUOTE ]
autofold. if its not, plug them leaks [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] holla

[/ QUOTE ]

I raise this at the 11's. Most players there won't play back at you without a premium holding. At the 33's, it's highly dependent on the players involved, so I might go either way. At the 55's (highest I can comment) I'd probably be too worried that an opponent would figure out I have to fold to a raise and push any two back at me.

Seriously, if raising KJ 3-handed is a leak, I have a problem.

lastchance 08-15-2005 12:24 PM

Re: advise on a raise then pushed hand final 3.
 
Well, you just push initially here (and anything else is horribly wrong).

Above, I guess it's a fold.

It's all about the blind size.

Slim Pickens 08-15-2005 01:22 PM

Re: advise on a raise then pushed hand final 3.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Well, you just push initially here (and anything else is horribly wrong).

Above, I guess it's a fold.

It's all about the blind size.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why open-push for 16BB?


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