flop decision, 5/10 NL
 

5 limpers and SB completes, which is standard for this game, and I rap in the BB with 97 of spades

the flop comes Ts6s5x; I lead 50, a tight-aggressive (TAG) min-raises to 100, a loose canon (LC) cold-calls, and it's folded to me; after the call I have another 500 behind, and both my opponents have around 1k; should I call or push? (or raise less than my stack?!)

a little color on my opponents:
TAG is a probably a winner in the game but seems somewhat ABC
LC is a totally wild player, capable of anything at any time, changing gears every orbit or two; seemed like she was in loose-mode at the time of the hand

Re: flop decision, 5/10 NL
 

if it were me i call and pray for an offsuit 8.
you're getting great odds, your hand is disguised and the pot's big enough that a push probably isnt getting out 65. (the big pot also means that if you hit you'll probably get doubled through)

this is really dependant on your read of the two other players. if this is a line neither of them would take with a set than a push seems fine since there is 300 worth of dead money in the pot, but otherwise take your cheap turn.

Re: flop decision, 5/10 NL
 

I think you cant really go wrong calling or moving in. Id tend to move in on this flop, there are a lot of hands people can fear, and you may be able to take down the $300 pot right there. Of course if you get called you likely have 12 outs twice which is not a bad place to be.

Re: flop decision, 5/10 NL
 

I'd definitely just call here. With the loose cannon cold calling $100 I'd be very worried that my spade outs aren't any good. What else is she calling with? She would raise with two pair, so its either 78 or spades. Call and hope you hit the gutshot.

Re: flop decision, 5/10 NL
 

this probably means you should move in to try to buy outs

unless loose cannon is calling half his stack with a flush draw, ick

Re: flop decision, 5/10 NL
 

Anyone make an argument for folding here? I'd say it's well within the realm of possibility that you're drawing to a flush that's no good and any board pair puts you in really rough shape. I realize you're getting a great price here, but I don't like being OOP against both a TAG and a loose cannon where I can hit my outs and not be overly thrilled about it.

Re: flop decision, 5/10 NL
 

Call.. I don't think you have a whole lot of fold equity here with a couple of limpers that could have anything, and will prob call you down with A-10.

Re: flop decision, 5/10 NL
 

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5 limpers and SB completes, which is standard for this game, and I rap in the BB with 97 of spades

the flop comes Ts6s5x; I lead 50, a tight-aggressive (TAG) min-raises to 100, a loose canon (LC) cold-calls, and it's folded to me; after the call I have another 500 behind, and both my opponents have around 1k; should I call or push? (or raise less than my stack?!)

a little color on my opponents:
TAG is a probably a winner in the game but seems somewhat ABC
LC is a totally wild player, capable of anything at any time, changing gears every orbit or two; seemed like she was in loose-mode at the time of the hand

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If the raise were larger, it would be allin or fold time.

Since the raise is so small, nothing wrong with peeling one off here.

Allin isn't bad either. The problem with calling, as is pointed out, is that if you hit a spade you won't be sure where you stand, whereas if you're allin you can be sure that the spades and the 8 are good.

Re: flop decision, 5/10 NL
 

You can't continue the hand unless you clean up your spade outs - push (although it seems a little ridiculous) or fold. I push.

Re: flop decision, 5/10 NL
 

I admit that I'm a little suprised by your lead into 6 opponents OOP with a non-nut drawing hand. Perhaps I'm too conservative in this regard. Is this standard?

Marlow