Rule question
 

Pre-flop... someone raises before me but I don't see him to it... I throw a chip in thinking I'm limping... Other players tell me that I've under-called... I realise my mistake and say that I didn't see the raiser raising & want to take my chips back and fold instead... am I allowed? or am I forced to call for the full amount?

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I'm not sure about the specific rule, but in every casino and cardroom I've ever been in, this has been allowed...if you don't notice that there has been a raise in front, and you put the call amount out, you're not forced to call.

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Note that if several players have acted behind you, you may be bound to call, or at least forfeit the amount you've put in there.

But if you stopped the action in time, you are usually allowed to retrieve that bet--even though I'm opposed to such a ruling.

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i agree with the other posters, the only exception I have seen was at Feather Falls in nor cal... anything that goes over the line is in, no matter what, but i believe you can still leave the chip in and not call the rest.

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the other players protested straight away that I hadn't called the right amount so no-one had acted after me.

The tournament director ruled that I had to call for the full amount of the raise.

I protested and was surprised no other player backed me up... they all believed that I should be calling the full amount.

Because I was pissed off about the ruling & protested the tourney director changed his ruling & let me take my chips back!!! What a joke.

edit: I never actually verbally say "call"

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Is this a tournament or a cash game? Did you say "call" or just move your chips?

If it is a cash game and low(er) stakes most rooms would allow you to reverse your action, pull your bet back and fold. High(er) stakes most rooms you will likely be made to call the full amount. If you said "call" you are bound by that regardless of the stakes.

If it was a tournament, well frankly it depends on how strict the room is. A very strict room is going to rule that you made a "forward motion" with chips which is a bet, and you will have to complete it to the correct amount. If it is less strict, you would be allowed to pull back and fold. Again if you "said" call, there is no way out, you called regardless if you knew what you were calling or not.

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Is this a tournament or a cash game? Did you say "call" or just move your chips?

If it is a cash game and low(er) stakes most rooms would allow you to reverse your action, pull your bet back and fold. High(er) stakes most rooms you will likely be made to call the full amount. If you said "call" you are bound by that regardless of the stakes.

If it was a tournament, well frankly it depends on how strict the room is. A very strict room is going to rule that you made a "forward motion" with chips which is a bet, and you will have to complete it to the correct amount. If it is less strict, you would be allowed to pull back and fold. Again if you "said" call, there is no way out, you called regardless if you knew what you were calling or not.

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It was a tournament... $20 rebuy (so nothing too serious)... I didn't say call I just threw a chip the size of the big-blind in.

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What a joke.

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Pay attention.

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What a joke.

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Pay attention.

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Fair enough, I should pay more attention. But it's a joke that the tournament director makes a ruling and then changes his mind when I start getting angry.

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Is this a tournament or a cash game? Did you say "call" or just move your chips?

If it is a cash game and low(er) stakes most rooms would allow you to reverse your action, pull your bet back and fold. High(er) stakes most rooms you will likely be made to call the full amount. If you said "call" you are bound by that regardless of the stakes.

If it was a tournament, well frankly it depends on how strict the room is. A very strict room is going to rule that you made a "forward motion" with chips which is a bet, and you will have to complete it to the correct amount. If it is less strict, you would be allowed to pull back and fold. Again if you "said" call, there is no way out, you called regardless if you knew what you were calling or not.

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It was a tournament... $20 rebuy (so nothing too serious)... I didn't say call I just threw a chip the size of the big-blind in.

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Forget about it, steal some bikes, and get back in the action.