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SkittleBrau 08-10-2005 02:10 AM

AK TPTK + gutshot, crappy board
 
Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

CO is slightly LAG 27/21/2 but not unreasonable so far. SB is a moron and has stats of 80/20/1.25. I was pretty confused at what CO might have that I could beat (KK, QQ, AQ, flush draw?). SB could be calling with any piece of the board -- and "any piece" keeps improving on later streets.

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls.

Flop: (10 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (11 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, CO calls.

River: (14 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, CO calls.

Final Pot: 16 BB

Comments? Plan to fold to turn/river c/r?

wackjob 08-10-2005 02:13 AM

Re: AK TPTK + gutshot, crappy board
 
Overplayed A or flush draw. I think there is value in the river bet.

baronzeus 08-10-2005 02:14 AM

Re: AK TPTK + gutshot, crappy board
 
I'd say SB is on a heart draw 95% of the time and CO has KQ 90% of the time. This is a weird line.

SkittleBrau 08-10-2005 02:21 AM

Re: AK TPTK + gutshot, crappy board
 
What line do you suggest instead?

kahntrutahn 08-10-2005 02:22 AM

Re: AK TPTK + gutshot, crappy board
 
You think CO has KQ with a 2 AF and didn't BO or ChR the turn? Nut straight that afraid of a boat on the turn?

baronzeus 08-10-2005 02:23 AM

Re: AK TPTK + gutshot, crappy board
 
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What line do you suggest instead?

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It's difficult here because I think you're drawing to 2 outs most often here, especially after seeing the turn action. Literally no other hands make sense besides KQ and AT after the turn. That's why I would check behind on the river when AT fills up and you're still behind KQ.


The other hand that plays like this is A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. I think that caps preflop though.

baronzeus 08-10-2005 02:24 AM

Re: AK TPTK + gutshot, crappy board
 
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You think CO has KQ with a 2 AF and didn't BO or ChR the turn? Nut straight that afraid of a boat on the turn?

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Yep. The flop went bet-raise-3bet after hero 3bet preflop. Villain has to put here on some sort of a hand here when he caps. When he doesn't check-raise the turn here, which seems to have "hurt" him in some way, it's pretty clear that he is worried that his preflop raising hand that liked the flop got counterfeited in some way.

SkittleBrau 08-10-2005 02:42 AM

Re: AK TPTK + gutshot, crappy board
 
You'd bet the turn and fold to a river bet or check behind on the turn and fold to a river bet?

In the heat of battle I was thinking I didn't want to give a free card to the flush/straight draws/AQ against aggro guys in this spot.

baronzeus 08-10-2005 02:44 AM

Re: AK TPTK + gutshot, crappy board
 
No, I bet the turn, and check behind when the T hits on the river.

I also call for 1 bet if I get donked on the river.

kahntrutahn 08-10-2005 04:28 AM

Re: AK TPTK + gutshot, crappy board
 
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No, I bet the turn, and check behind when the T hits on the river.

I also call for 1 bet if I get donked on the river.

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