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topspin 08-09-2005 09:21 PM

TT - playing overpairs multi-way OOP
 
First orbit, no reads, so assume your average Party 1/2 players.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero ...?

Looking for thought process in hands like this, where multiple overcards to our overpair hit and we've got callers but no aggression.

With position my default play is to fire again on the turn and hope for a free showdown, folding if bet into on the river. With one villain acting behind me, a free showdown is much less certain even if I bet the turn.

What's the plan here and for the river, assuming the action doesn't get too crazy?

Aaron W. 08-09-2005 09:51 PM

Re: TT - playing overpairs multi-way OOP
 
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First orbit, no reads, so assume your average Party 1/2 players.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero ...?

Looking for thought process in hands like this, where multiple overcards to our overpair hit and we've got callers but no aggression.

With position my default play is to fire again on the turn and hope for a free showdown, folding if bet into on the river. With one villain acting behind me, a free showdown is much less certain even if I bet the turn.

What's the plan here and for the river, assuming the action doesn't get too crazy?

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Bet the turn, check the river, usually fold if villain bets. And 3-handed is not really that multiway and second to last to ace isn't that OOP.

Edit: I check if there are two players behind me to act.

bozlax 08-09-2005 09:59 PM

Re: TT - playing overpairs multi-way OOP
 
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Bet the turn, check the river, usually fold if villain bets. And 3-handed is not really that multiway and second to last to ace isn't that OOP.

Edit: I check if there are two players behind me to act.

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And TT isn't an overpair on a flop with a queen. Other than that, you're fine, Top [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

With two to act behind me (counting UTG that checked to me) I don't put in any more money without a ten falling on the river.

topspin 08-09-2005 10:04 PM

Re: TT - playing overpairs multi-way OOP
 
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3-handed is not really that multiway and second to last to ace isn't that OOP.

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And TT isn't an overpair on a flop with a queen. Other than that, you're fine, Top [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

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"You know you're having a bad day when ..."

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bozlax 08-09-2005 10:05 PM

Re: TT - playing overpairs multi-way OOP
 
...they take away your sn and make you start over again as a Stranger?

topspin 08-09-2005 10:08 PM

Re: TT - playing overpairs multi-way OOP
 
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...they take away your sn and make you start over again as a Stranger?

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I'm afraid to check my PMs now [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

shadow29 08-09-2005 10:10 PM

Re: TT - playing overpairs multi-way OOP
 
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...they take away your sn and make you start over again as a Stranger?

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ive oft thought about doing this voluntarily.

topspin 08-09-2005 10:13 PM

Re: TT - playing overpairs multi-way OOP
 
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...they take away your sn and make you start over again as a Stranger?

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ive oft thought about doing this voluntarily.

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I thought this was the whole point of the MicroPoster thing.

shadow29 08-09-2005 10:15 PM

Re: TT - playing overpairs multi-way OOP
 
[ QUOTE ]
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...they take away your sn and make you start over again as a Stranger?

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ive oft thought about doing this voluntarily.

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I thought this was the whole point of the MicroPoster thing.

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no like permenantly

teajay 08-09-2005 10:45 PM

Re: TT - playing overpairs multi-way OOP
 
I would fire another round. Typical 1/2 players are tight-asses [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

My reasoning for another bet here is the potential flush draw on board and I don't want to let anyone draw for free.

Fold to a raise, and try to take a free showdown. If another overcard to our pair comes I'm folding, otherwise you'll be getting ~9:1 to call a bet which I may do against unknowns.

*Edit: I don't think I would call a bet on the end without improving. You're likely only going to be beating a bluff, which I don't think will come enough


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