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AZK 08-09-2005 02:20 AM

For all the 5/10 6maxers, is this a routine river fold/call?
 
Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter

UTG ($1138.75)
Hero ($943)
Button ($788.50)
SB ($339.37)
BB ($1823.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $35</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $25.

Flop: ($75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $73</font>, BB calls $73.

Turn: ($221) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $150</font>, BB calls $150.

River: ($521) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $350</font>, Hero calls $350.

Final Pot: $1221

BB is unremarkable.

Prevaricator 08-09-2005 02:26 AM

Re: For all the 5/10 6maxers, is this a routine river fold/call?
 
looks like a fold. This is the kind of thing where you were showing strength, so for him to lead into you is probably not a bluff. You'll probably get shown 87 if you call (thats my guess) but he could have some sort of club-draw-turned-into-good-hand or whatever. Seems like a strange way to bluff if he did miss a draw.

VanVeen 08-09-2005 02:27 AM

Re: For all the 5/10 6maxers, is this a routine river fold/call?
 
Erm, I check the turn unless I've been playing very aggressively of late. I fold the river when he leads. Fairly routine assuming no read.

thabadguy 08-09-2005 02:27 AM

Re: For all the 5/10 6maxers, is this a routine river fold/call?
 
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looks like a fold. This is the kind of thing where you were showing strength, so for him to lead into you is probably not a bluff. You'll probably get shown 87 if you call (thats my guess) but he could have some sort of club-draw-turned-into-good-hand or whatever. Seems like a strange way to bluff if he did miss a draw.

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I think this is one of the easiest calls ever, esp at 6 max.

Prevaricator 08-09-2005 02:30 AM

Re: For all the 5/10 6maxers, is this a routine river fold/call?
 
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looks like a fold. This is the kind of thing where you were showing strength, so for him to lead into you is probably not a bluff. You'll probably get shown 87 if you call (thats my guess) but he could have some sort of club-draw-turned-into-good-hand or whatever. Seems like a strange way to bluff if he did miss a draw.

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I think this is one of the easiest calls ever, esp at 6 max.

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tell me why.

I also play the hand differently and probably have a different image than AZK, but he didn't provide us with that. In a vacuum I think its a fold. Why is it a call.

08-09-2005 02:33 AM

Re: For all the 5/10 6maxers, is this a routine river fold/call?
 
bet there at the end is wierd, seems like a line I might take if i flopped two pair(against lag)... Or a 10 up into the river... 910c? I'll call hoping to see j10.

missed the flush easy call.

thabadguy 08-09-2005 02:34 AM

Re: For all the 5/10 6maxers, is this a routine river fold/call?
 
I think missed clubs alone is enough reason to call this river, getting around 2.5:1.

edge 08-09-2005 02:46 AM

Re: For all the 5/10 6maxers, is this a routine river fold/call?
 
I call the end because I have TPTK and I'm weirded out by the bet. I wouldn't be too surprised to lose though.

I sometimes check this turn through. It depends on the player, and unremarkable doesn't say enough.

JKratzer 08-09-2005 02:48 AM

Re: For all the 5/10 6maxers, is this a routine river fold/call?
 
fizzle my nizzle.

JKratzer

AZK 08-09-2005 02:52 AM

Re: For all the 5/10 6maxers, is this a routine river fold/call?
 
Why don't people like the turn bet? I thought betting air should normally be continued by betting when you actually hit?


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