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crazymoose 08-07-2005 07:54 PM

QTs hand.. what to do on the river..
 
Villain is in MP1 with 28.57 VPIP and 6.45 PFR. He has generally been passive postflop with the exception of the river.. hence my question. (Only 62 hands on villain however)

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (5 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls.

River: (6.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, Hero???
Final Pot: 10.50 BB

This isn't the most interesting hand, but I'm trying to start posting more hands (any hands?), and this is the only one that remotely puzzled me during my short session of play.

irishpint 08-07-2005 07:56 PM

Re: QTs hand.. what to do on the river..
 
id say this is a pretty easy fold...you may have been beat since the flop.

aK13 08-07-2005 07:58 PM

Re: QTs hand.. what to do on the river..
 
3bet or fold preflop -- I typically fold to MP1 raises.

Given your play, I really don't see what he's raising the river with that you are beating except a complete bluff.

P.S. FIND A BETTER TABLE!!!!!!!! 2 players/flop at 1/2 is recockulous.

GTSamIAm 08-07-2005 07:59 PM

Re: QTs hand.. what to do on the river..
 
You're probably beaten, but you should call so you can see what he played this way for future hands.

By the way, you say he's been passive postflop, then you check-raise him after he bets. You said he was passive postflop, is he loose or tight? If he's loose, I think betting out would be better.

I also think you should muck preflop. I think he's raising a stronger hand here most of the time. You said he raises about 7% of the time. That doesn't leave much for steal raising.

Vote4Pedro 08-07-2005 08:04 PM

Re: QTs hand.. what to do on the river..
 
I dont like calling 1.5 sb w/ QTs vs. someone who raises 6.45% of the time

moot 08-07-2005 08:14 PM

Re: QTs hand.. what to do on the river..
 
[ QUOTE ]
I dont like calling 1.5 sb w/ QTs vs. someone who raises 6.45% of the time

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Yeah, especially when this pot's going to be 3handed, at best. 2handed if the BB folds, which he did.

EDIT ==

I also don't see the point of the check raise, especially when I'm gonna be OP for the rest of the hand.


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