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fatdave 08-07-2005 06:07 PM

The morality of killing conscious robots
 
Assume that sometime in the future, we will have the capacity to create robots that are able to feel emotions like love and sorrow, and think abstractly about topics like religion and politics.

Assuming that they look & feel exactly like humans, and can think exactly like humans... would it be immoral to turn one off permanently?

Alternatively, assume that we had created a virtual reality simulation (a la "The Matrix"), where the residents could feel and think just like humans and were going about their happy lives without knowing they were in a simulation. Would it be immoral to shut off their world permanently?

(Note that for the sake of this argument, we must pretend that the robots / virtual beings think and feel exactly like humans. They are exactly like humans, except they have robot DNA instead of people DNA! [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] )

A_C_Slater 08-07-2005 07:05 PM

Re: The morality of killing conscious robots
 
Were you watching Star Trek yesterday? They had this exact plot line about whether it was ethical to disassemble Data so that Star Fleet could learn how to build more of him.

Also in that episode they are playing 5 card stud. Data has QQQ79 and Number one has X 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] showing on his board.

Data has Queens up and is first to act and Data bets

So much for Data and his perfect logic.

fatdave 08-07-2005 07:33 PM

Re: The morality of killing conscious robots
 
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Were you watching Star Trek yesterday?

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No, I didn't watch Star Trek. This question has been floating around in my head for a few years... I also have follow-up questions based around this question too.

08-07-2005 08:34 PM

Re: The morality of killing conscious robots
 
1. Go to a library.
2. Check out all of Asimov's robot books.
3. Read.

edit: These types of issues come up in his books a lot.

lastchance 08-07-2005 09:21 PM

Re: The morality of killing conscious robots
 
He also folds after putting in about 5 raises to Riker's bluff.

By that time, any computer should be smart enough to play perfectly in a game like 5 card stud....

Also, Riker's a pro for drawing to a flush in 5CS.

A_C_Slater 08-07-2005 10:23 PM

Re: The morality of killing conscious robots
 
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He also folds after putting in about 5 raises to Riker's bluff.

By that time, any computer should be smart enough to play perfectly in a game like 5 card stud....

Also, Riker's a pro for drawing to a flush in 5CS.

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Yes. Riker draws to a 4 flush just so he can represent a flush just on the off chance that Data will fold to his bluff.


Also, later in the episode Data claims to have researched the entire Star Fleet database on poker. And yet he still doesn't understand the concept of bluffing.

Data sucks.

08-08-2005 12:20 AM

Re: The morality of killing conscious robots
 
This is definitely a poker forum.

Jazza 08-08-2005 12:49 AM

Re: The morality of killing conscious robots
 
if i had to guess, i would say it's just as wrong as killing a human

but, i don't understand right and wrong, do take that for what it's worth

fatdave 08-08-2005 12:51 AM

Re: The morality of killing conscious robots
 
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Were you watching Star Trek yesterday?

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What is the name of this episode?

Now, if we could get back to the morality chit-chat... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I have read "I, Robot" and didn't get much philosophical from it, except for the robot that thinks he was created by a higher being and not by the humans that actually made him.

JoshuaD 08-08-2005 01:46 AM

Re: The morality of killing conscious robots
 
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Were you watching Star Trek yesterday?

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What is the name of this episode?

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It's in the second season, "The Measure of a Man".


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