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party36master 08-07-2005 11:13 AM

Thinking of moving up to $5/$10: Comment on $3/$6 stats
 
I'm thinking of moving up to $5/$10 in the near future.

Anything you see in my $3/$6 stats thats a leak, that will cost me in $5/$10?

Hands 16,859
VPIP- 28.77%
PFR- 21.80%
VPIPSB- 34.59%
SBtoSteal- 82.92%
BBtoSteal- 56.48%
ATTsteal- 50.19%
WWSF- 44.93%
WTSD- 33.18%
w$SD- 54.58%

BB/100- 3.72

Flop Agg- 2.73
Turn Agg- 2.09
River Agg- 2.03
Agg ex pflop- 2.37

FoldRiverBet- 42.86%
checkraise%- 0.99% (What is optimum here?)

Position Stats
Button 36/29 - 0.09 BB/hand
1 30/27- 0.22 BB/hand
2 26/23- 0.11 BB/hand
3 23/22- 0.04
BB 21/4- (0.13)
SB 35/27- (0.06)

Nigel 08-07-2005 11:17 AM

Re: Thinking of moving up to $5/$10: Comment on $3/$6 stats
 
Terrible win rate, I wouldn't move up until you were at least over 9BB/100.

You're clearly not ready for 5/10 yet - that game is a bitch.

Monty Cantsin 08-07-2005 11:52 AM

Re: Thinking of moving up to $5/$10: Comment on $3/$6 stats
 
Get a new nickname.

/mc

Surfbullet 08-07-2005 11:54 AM

Re: Thinking of moving up to $5/$10: Comment on $3/$6 stats
 
Your att to steal is astronomical. You may also indulde the thought that you are running very well. Move up to 5/10 if you have the roll - know that relentless value-betting is the key to winning there, not stealing blinds with garbage.

Surf

Guy Incognito 08-07-2005 12:04 PM

Re: Thinking of moving up to $5/$10: Comment on $3/$6 stats
 
Whoa, I'm confused. I assumed that blind stealing was easier at the higher limits, as the players tend to be tighter overall... what am I missing?

Nigel 08-07-2005 12:09 PM

Re: Thinking of moving up to $5/$10: Comment on $3/$6 stats
 
[ QUOTE ]
what am I missing?

[/ QUOTE ]

The fact that good players defend their blinds very well, and will eat someone with a 50% ASB for breakfast.

Escape 08-07-2005 12:09 PM

Re: Thinking of moving up to $5/$10: Comment on $3/$6 stats
 
[ QUOTE ]
Whoa, I'm confused. I assumed that blind stealing was easier at the higher limits, as the players tend to be tighter overall... what am I missing?

[/ QUOTE ]

They are better at defending them as well.

Surfbullet 08-07-2005 12:17 PM

Re: Thinking of moving up to $5/$10: Comment on $3/$6 stats
 
Blind stealing isn't necessary easier, but it is more important, and more profitable(because the rake is a smaller %-age and some players fold more). However, most of the players you want to be playing against are loose-passives who will call with nearly anything. This makes stealing less important since they wont fold, and value-betting more important.

For example: You raise with J8o on the button. 2 calls from the loosies in the blinds. You miss the flop, and bet to try and pick up the pot. One calls. You don't know if he's got bottom pair, no pair, a gutshot, whatever, but he's calling. Your hand has no showdown value and you only have 1 more card to spike a pair.

Another example: you raise 22 on the button. 2 calls from loosies in the blinds. You miss the flop, and bet to try and pick up the pot. One calls. You don't know if he's got bottom pair, no pair, a gutshot, whatever, but he's calling. You can bet the turn, you may pick up the pot, he'll often call with a no-pair drawing hand (be it overcards or whatever), and you can check thruogh the river. You will often win this pot by A). folding out a worse hand on the turn B). winning at SD when he misses his draw, however weak or strong it was.

Surf

party36master 08-07-2005 12:25 PM

Re: Thinking of moving up to $5/$10: Comment on $3/$6 stats
 
[ QUOTE ]

For example: You raise with J8o on the button. 2 calls from the loosies in the blinds. You miss the flop, and bet to try and pick up the pot. One calls. You don't know if he's got bottom pair, no pair, a gutshot, whatever, but he's calling. Your hand has no showdown value and you only have 1 more card to spike a pair.
Surf

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In $3/$6, against weakies without a large showdown percentage, this line often continues, bet call, bet fold, and I pick up the pot.

I'll cut down my steal percentage as I move up to $5/$10, thanks (at least until I get a feel).

Bizot 08-07-2005 12:38 PM

Re: Thinking of moving up to $5/$10: Comment on $3/$6 stats
 
maybe its just me but WSD 33% seems a bit low and 54% W$SD a bit high?

I've always been told to shoot for 40/50 or so


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