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TomBrooks 08-06-2005 04:19 AM

KQo Hand 2. Would You Fold This River?
 
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed)

MP2 is a Fish: I have him at 93/0 after 31 hands. I don't remember how many hands I had on him at the time of this hand.

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, Button calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, Button folds.

River: (7.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero ....

Pretty sure I'm beat here. Why the hell else would he raise? I'm reluctant to lay down Top Pair good kicker though.

Did he call down the whole way with no pair and a Two? A2s maybe? Would he call a PF raise with 92 or 52? Probably not. Must be King-Two or A2. But if it was K2, why didn't he raise the turn when he made Two Pair? So he must have A2, Right? Fold the river, right?

Final Pot: 11.25 BB

macdaddy991 08-06-2005 04:24 AM

Re: KQo Hand 2. Would You Fold This River?
 
10 to 1 is enough for a crying call.

Yort Mada 08-06-2005 04:26 AM

Re: KQo Hand 2. Would You Fold This River?
 
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10 to 1 is enough for a crying call.

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Trix 08-06-2005 04:29 AM

Re: KQo Hand 2. Would You Fold This River?
 
10:1 is a good price.

He plays all his hands, I wouldn´t even be sure he knew the rules..

Kumubou 08-06-2005 04:31 AM

Re: KQo Hand 2. Would You Fold This River?
 
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Did he call down the whole way with no pair and a Two? A2s maybe? Would he call a PF raise with 92 or 52?

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MP2 is a Fish

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You answered your own question. He has any two cards... probably standard playing cards, but they may be Uno or Magic cards.

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Why the hell else would he raise?

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He may be raising because raising is dope. Also, I have seen some real goofy play when the river pairs the board, people raising because they now have 'two pair', because that is better than top pair.

Cringe and make this call.

-K

08-06-2005 08:40 AM

Re: KQo Hand 2. Would You Fold This River?
 
Your line looks good here - call the river against unknown (and take a note on his play). If you knew he's really passive you could fold here (but only if he's very passive, otherwise you should call).

John Paul 08-06-2005 09:13 AM

Re: KQo Hand 2. Would You Fold This River?
 
Call, even some passive players will do this with any pair at all. Without a read, against a single LP player, you might be good 20% of the time - enough to call here.

flo 08-06-2005 09:22 AM

Re: KQo Hand 2. Would You Fold This River?
 
Don't fold your strong hand for just one bet. I don't think the call is really crying here, it's just a call, and you are ahead most of the time.

pryor15 08-06-2005 09:29 AM

Re: KQo Hand 2. Would You Fold This River?
 
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Did he call down the whole way with no pair and a Two? A2s maybe?

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it wouldn't be the first time that ever happened in 1/2

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Would he call a PF raise with 92 or 52? Probably not. Must be King-Two or A2. But if it was K2, why didn't he raise the turn when he made Two Pair? So he must have A2, Right?

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no, i would say he quite possibly has absolutely nothing you should worry about. or maybe he has a smaller K and doesn't realize he could be in kicker trouble here.

actually, i'm not against a raise here if you think he might be on a possible bluff. b/c bluffing on the river is cool sometimes.

thesharpie 08-06-2005 09:35 AM

Re: KQo Hand 2. Would You Fold This River?
 
Are you saying 3 bet the river if he's bluffing?


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