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i'm just wondering if any of you have ever taken a 30 minute break from the table

just to throw some dice to relax a lil while....

or get your gambling fix for the moment so you don't end up playing 72o in early position)

what do you think would be the pyschological impacts of switching from a game of skill to a game of chance and vice versa...

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>>what do you think would be the pyschological impacts of switching from a game of skill to a game of chance and vice versa...

think it can F you up strategically and mentally? <<

Man, I love playing dice. But rolling dice is gambling. Poker is not. No confusion whatsoever between the two.

Sometimes after an unusually sick series of poker beats I'll blow off steam at low limits.

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i do it when it is available, but I like to run to slots and do them in between hands sometimes

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But rolling dice is gambling. Poker is not.

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Man, I love playing dice. But rolling dice is gambling. Poker is not. No confusion whatsoever between the two.

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Don't kid yourself.... poker is gambling.

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Man, I love playing dice. But rolling dice is gambling. Poker is not.

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I think this idea is not correct. Both poker and dice are gambling because they involve wagering on uncertain outcomes. The events one wagers on in poker are more complex, but not less random. What distinguishes the two gambling games is that, in poker, one is able to make decisions that can have, in the long run, positive expected value. The short term unpredictability of the results of those decisions, however, is what makes poker gambling.

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&gt;&gt;Don't kid yourself.... poker is gambling.&lt;&lt;

Um, when the house lays odds on blackjack, craps, pai gow, etc - is that gambling?

If you're playing poker right, you're acting as the 'house', taking the best of it in the long run. If your edge is big enough to sustain the rake, tips, expenses, etc, then it's not gambling.

YMMV.

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when the house lays odds on blackjack, craps, pai gow, etc - is that gambling?

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Yes, I think this is also gambling, for the same reasons. In this situation, it is the house that enjoys the advantage in expected value, though.

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If you're playing poker right, you're acting as the 'house', taking the best of it in the long run. If your edge is big enough to sustain the rake, tips, expenses, etc, then it's not gambling.

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While this might be true in the long run for a good player, it is not necessarily true for even all excellent players. The edge that even a good player has in poker over some of his opponents is comparatively small relative to the edge a casino has over all players in every table game and at every slot machine it operates. It is more likely to be the case that the casino will profit because of the greater edge it has, but much more importantly, because of the much higher number of trials it performs in every game, every day, all day. The house edge quickly catches up to the law of large numbers; this is not necessarily the case for a poker player. This reinforces the idea that poker is gambling.

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&gt;&gt;The edge that even a good player has in poker over some of his opponents is comparatively small relative to the edge a casino has over all players in every table game and at every slot machine it operates. &lt;&lt;

I disagree, as a blanket statement, that the casino necessarily enjoys a bigger edge. I would accept that the casino enjoys a much more predictable edge however.

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&gt;&gt;Don't kid yourself.... poker is gambling.&lt;&lt;

Um, when the house lays odds on blackjack, craps, pai gow, etc - is that gambling?

If you're playing poker right, you're acting as the 'house', taking the best of it in the long run. If your edge is big enough to sustain the rake, tips, expenses, etc, then it's not gambling.

YMMV.

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Read the first chapter of Small Stakes Hold'em, then tell me Poker is not gambling. You will change your mind.

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