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durrrr 08-04-2005 05:37 AM

5/10 ps... interesting turn decision versus a good fish
 
UTG in this hand is a large contributor to the 10/20 (and 5/10 a little bit) on PS... but i haven't playd him that much myself (maybe 1k hands if even). From what I've seen- I'll admit I don't pay enough attention to other's tendencies, he has a very bad case of FPS. Also I tend to see him showing down "big" hands a lot more often when he bets ~1/2 pot (big to him is JT on this flop, as well as a set).

I'll mix up my preflop and flop play sometimes here, I think this is 1 of a few fairly standard lines that works fine... what about the turn? I feel if i bet he will fold most worse hands, and c/r allin with the better ones (along with stacking off AJ/QQ).


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (8 handed)

BB ($264)
UTG ($857)
Hero ($4548)
MP1 ($1368)
MP2 ($1847.35)
CO ($1183)
Button ($2788.10)
SB ($1005)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $40</font>, Hero calls $40, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>.

Flop: ($95) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $40</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $150</font>, UTG calls $110.

Turn: ($395) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks,
HERO?

08-04-2005 06:42 AM

Re: 5/10 ps... interesting turn decision versus a good fish
 
If you think he might fold to a bet I would probably check here and hope he tries to bluff on the end. Personally I would bet the pot here and hope he has something like AJ/QQ. I certainly don't think he has you beat at this stage.

durrrr 08-04-2005 07:32 AM

Re: 5/10 ps... interesting turn decision versus a good fish
 
yea I'm not so much worried he has me beat, as that he will fold to a bet- and I'm really not too worried about him outdrawing me (as he has vry few outs if I am ahead)... my ? is simply what line do you think makes the most here (while factoring in that a check behind loses less when he has a set/KJ/AA). If you bet how much do you bet?

captZEEbo1 08-04-2005 07:35 AM

Re: 5/10 ps... interesting turn decision versus a good fish
 
flop call is scary, I probably check turn and call river (or bet if checked to).

08-04-2005 07:58 AM

Re: 5/10 ps... interesting turn decision versus a good fish
 
In that case I would make it $150 again if he's drawing he will probably make the call.

captZEEbo1 08-04-2005 07:59 AM

Re: 5/10 ps... interesting turn decision versus a good fish
 
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In that case I would make it $150 again if he's drawing he will probably make the call.

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what draw?

mgsimpleton 08-04-2005 08:38 AM

Re: 5/10 ps... interesting turn decision versus a good fish
 
most. standard. check. behind. ever.

call river bet/value bet if checked to. if he has a set you're crushed and it would suuuuuck to get pushed off hand. if you're ahead he has few outs like you said. if he has flush draw too you want him IN.

BobboFitos 08-04-2005 02:05 PM

Re: 5/10 ps... interesting turn decision versus a good fish
 
i made a reply thinking this was 10/20, but since it's 5/10, fslex made a really good reply.

also, I think you should've raised the flop harder, like to 200 total.

thabadguy 08-04-2005 02:21 PM

Re: 5/10 ps... interesting turn decision versus a good fish
 
wtf is a good fish???

Big_Jim 08-04-2005 03:15 PM

Re: 5/10 ps... interesting turn decision versus a good fish
 
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I feel if i bet he will fold most worse hands, and c/r allin with the better ones (along with stacking off AJ/QQ).

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Check.

If a blank hits:
If he checks to you on the river, bet 250-350, re-evaluate if he C/Rs, sounds like it might be a call, if he's as bad as you say, but probably a fold.
If he bets out big, sounds like a call, given read.

If the flush hits:
If he checks to you on the river, bet 250-350
If he bets out big, push.

If a J hits:
If he checks to you, bet 250-350, fold to a raise
If he leads, call 200-300, fold to anything more.


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