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avatar77 08-02-2005 08:34 PM

How to Win No-Limit Hold\'em Tournaments - McEvoy and Vines
 
This is book just got released..heard of Tom McEvoy but his co-author is a new name to me: Don Vines.

Anyone know anything about Vines or this new book?

IggyWH 08-02-2005 08:58 PM

Re: How to Win No-Limit Hold\'em Tournaments - McEvoy and Vines
 
LINK

There's an editorial review on Amazon... that's at least a start.

Malachii 08-03-2005 05:06 AM

Re: How to Win No-Limit Hold\'em Tournaments - McEvoy and Vines
 
Don't play Ace Queen from the front, check fold Ace King if you miss, and a whole lotta old Texas stories about people we never knew and have no real interest in.

avatar77 08-11-2005 11:11 PM

Re: How to Win No-Limit Hold\'em Tournaments - McEvoy and Vines
 
is this an opinion on the actual book or other books by McEvoy?

Just curious how this book compares to his other books.

Alex/Mugaaz 08-12-2005 12:33 AM

Re: How to Win No-Limit Hold\'em Tournaments - McEvoy and Vines
 
[ QUOTE ]
is this an opinion on the actual book or other books by McEvoy?

Just curious how this book compares to his other books.

[/ QUOTE ]

The resources used to print his books is a waste of perfectly good toilet paper.

SNOWBALL138 08-12-2005 08:57 AM

Re: How to Win No-Limit Hold\'em Tournaments - McEvoy and Vines
 
I might be wrong here, but as far as I can tell, Tom McEvoy is a losing player. Over the last 22 years, he has averaged ~74k in tournament prizes.

This isn't profit though. Its his average per year in prizes w/o taking into account tournament entry fees OR the tournaments that he busted out of w/o cashing.

My method was to add his tournament prizes accessable at thehendon mob website and divide them by 22 (the number of years between now and his first recorded cash)

My numbers aren't exact, because I am too lazy, but they are approximately correct given the data available.

P.S. congratulations on being the recipient of my 666th post.

-Snowball

avatar77 08-12-2005 11:59 AM

Re: How to Win No-Limit Hold\'em Tournaments - McEvoy and Vines
 
Thanks Snow,

So you are saying that McEvoy is riding on his past glory when the field was much smaller than it is today?

What about his winnings on side cash games?

jakethebake 08-12-2005 12:11 PM

Re: How to Win No-Limit Hold\'em Tournaments - McEvoy and Vines
 
[ QUOTE ]
is this an opinion on the actual book or other books by McEvoy?

Just curious how this book compares to his other books.

[/ QUOTE ]

could it be worse>?

SNOWBALL138 08-12-2005 12:16 PM

Re: How to Win No-Limit Hold\'em Tournaments - McEvoy and Vines
 
I have no idea how well he does in cash games. Maybe he crushes the 2k NLHE games on party. Maybe he makes money online through SNGs. For all I know he spends a lot of time eight tabling the 215s on party for a 30% ROI. Anything is possible.

However, there is this:
In a discussion at Daniel's website about the worst player to win the WSOP, a lot of names came up like Varkonyi, Fowler, Moneymaker, but when Daniel finally chimed in, he was surprised that no one knew how much worse McEvoy is than all of the other winners. I think that's saying a lot.


-Snowball


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