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POKhER 08-02-2005 07:10 AM

QQ
 
Reads - Both Passives
SB: 32/4.5/.80 - Not seen him do anythign strange yet/.
UTG: 44/0/.42 - Seen this guy be aggressive(suprisingly) betting with nothing(Donk bet?) and generally seems clueless.




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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

<font color="red"> I dont think they hold a two, So i raise to see if i get 3bet. I dont so i assume no one holds a 2 </font>
Turn: (8.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, SB calls.

<font color="red"> Raise the turn? He bet into me(I PFR'ed and raised flop) or Call here? </font>

River: (11.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

<font color="red">I figure with possible trips, Flush? Why bet? But these idiots might call 1 bet even if bet into with nothing, Or be check raising me? Odd play... </font>
Final Pot: 11.50 BB

<font color="red">How do you play it? What are your reads on SB/UTG? Think i won or lost? </font>

aK13 08-02-2005 07:13 AM

Re: QQ
 
Raise the turn again.

Value bet the river.

benneh 08-02-2005 07:20 AM

Re: QQ
 
"I figure with possible trips, Flush? Why bet? But these idiots might call 1 bet even if bet into with nothing, Or be check raising me? Odd play... "

because no one is likely to have a deuce and the flush was backdoor.

MATT111 08-02-2005 07:21 AM

Re: QQ
 
Raise the turn. Bet the river.

Webster 08-02-2005 07:21 AM

Re: QQ
 
I have recently played a bunch of hands at this level on a Rake project (normally 2/4 up to 5/10) and I'll tell ya - if you have not played there for a while it is an experience.

No matter what you think - 80% of those guys playing CRAZY, they raise at random times, limp with great hands and just play like they are on crack.

I have folded some pretty good hands to obvious straights and flushs with 5 players and all 5 are bluffing.

Every thing you know about real poker gets thrown out the window. Pot odds are useless because you are always thinking about implied odds.

I would do what you did. The guy could have anything or nothing. You did what you had to do and now it's time to duck and cover.

I think you lost - he does not SEEM like an aggressive player but .. . . .

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POKhER 08-02-2005 07:22 AM

Re: QQ
 
Kind of thought the same after playing it through and wanted confirmation.

Result:<font color="white">
I love those guys, SB held AKs and didnt 3bet and UTG held 7xo </font>

POKhER 08-02-2005 07:24 AM

Re: QQ
 
Lol i know, These two are psychos. Donk bets, Not PFRING great hands Etc. It sent me into confusion and i called down.

MATT111 08-02-2005 07:25 AM

Re: QQ
 
I think you are ahead at least 80% of the time.

flo 08-02-2005 07:53 AM

Re: QQ
 
you have a strong hand and you are ahead most of the time. Raise the turn and bet the river. If you get 3bet on the turn, call down.

crunchy1 08-02-2005 08:45 AM

Re: QQ
 
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I would do what you did. The guy could have anything or nothing. You did what you had to do and now it's time to duck and cover.

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WEAK-TIGHT! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


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