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astarck 07-28-2005 11:17 PM

QQ on the bubble - You make the call.
 
I am in the midst of a 27 buy-in downswing at the 55s and it has really shaken me up. I'm actually going to take some time off and come back to the nice warm 33s. Anyways, what do you do here:

Reads: WiggumVBH is fairly loose and thekid64 has been tight for a big stack.

***** Hand History for Game 2440590680 *****
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14345503) - Thu Jul 28 22:21:31 EDT 2005
Table Table 22451 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: thekid64 (3515)
Seat 4: DINOMYYYTE (2965)
Seat 7: coolbear (2680)
Seat 10: WiggumVBH (840)
coolbear posts small blind (100)
WiggumVBH posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to DINOMYYYTE [ Qh, Qs ]
thekid64 raises (1000) to 1000
DINOMYYYTE ??

EDIT - This is a 55.

1C5 07-28-2005 11:21 PM

Re: QQ on the bubble - You make the call.
 
ICM may say fold, but I play for 1st in this spot. Even if he has been tight, I still come over the top all in and if I finish 4th, I break another pen on my desk and load up another SnG.

07-28-2005 11:24 PM

Re: QQ on the bubble - You make the call.
 
you're gonna get called, but i think this is still worth a push.

adanthar 07-28-2005 11:26 PM

Re: QQ on the bubble - You make the call.
 
Folding sucks and ICM is probably wrong when it says to fold here. However, this is one of those times where it's at least feasible to just call if you think the BB will overcall.

With no read, just push it.

1C5 07-28-2005 11:26 PM

Re: QQ on the bubble - You make the call.
 
PS, maybe a fold if small stack has 100 or 200 chips but he has enough that you are not sure to finish ITM if you fold this. He doubles up once and he is still in the game.

Ogre 07-28-2005 11:52 PM

Re: QQ on the bubble - You make the call.
 
I dont see him 5x from utg with AA or KK, push

mmbt0ne 07-28-2005 11:52 PM

Re: QQ on the bubble - You make the call.
 
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However, this is one of those times where it's at least feasible to just call if you think the BB will overcall.

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More than that, there will be no A or K on the flop about 2/3 of the time, and there will be times when a Q flops with one of those two ranks. You have position for the rest of the hand, and your equity is likely to change dramatically given the flop. I don't know if it's the right play, but it's certainly a viable option I think.

AliasMrJones 07-28-2005 11:56 PM

Re: QQ on the bubble - You make the call.
 
I push QQ on the bubble without hesitation.

octaveshift 07-29-2005 12:33 AM

Re: QQ on the bubble - You make the call.
 
Shove 'em in. Another $55 is just one click away!

The Don 07-29-2005 12:38 AM

Re: QQ on the bubble - You make the call.
 
My normal read on this 5x raise is that he is very weak. I think there is actually a good chance he folds here. Move in definitely.


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