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msb 07-26-2005 05:31 PM

How would you have played this?
 
(I couldn't get the converter to work for me... so I tried to clean it up the best I could)

Empire .25/.50 NL Texas Hold'em

Seat 1: Machine0 ( $97) - <font color="orange">Button</font>
Seat 2: CaseyCrowell ( $63.80)
Seat 3: sharadrao ( $221.50)
Seat 4: I_scream_man ( $42)
Seat 5: DougEMoldy ( $50)
Seat 6: Mr_Alco ( $52.70)
Seat 7: <font color="blue"> Hero </font> ( $57.60)
Seat 8: sflynn ( $61.90)
Seat 9: fc_smokey ( $53.90)
Seat 10: zero_point ( $43.75)

CaseyCrowell posts small blind (0.25)
sharadrao posts big blind (0.50)

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to <font color="blue"> Hero </font> [ 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
I_scream_man folds.
DougEMoldy raises (2) to 2
Mr_Alco folds.
<font color="blue"> Hero </font> calls (2)
fc_smokey folds.
zero_point folds.
Machine0 calls (2)
CaseyCrowell folds.
sharadrao folds.

** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]

DougEMoldy bets (5)
<font color="blue"> Hero </font> calls (5)
Machine0 raises (10) to 10
DougEMoldy calls (5)
Hero calls (5)

** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]

DougEMoldy checks.
<font color="blue"> Hero </font> checks.
Machine0 bets (15)
DougEMoldy calls (15)
<font color="blue"> Hero </font> raises (45.60) to 45.60
<font color="blue"> Hero </font> is all-In.
Machine0: 66?
Machine0 calls (30.60)
DougEMoldy calls (23)
DougEMoldy is all-In.

** Dealing River ** : [ 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]

Creating Main Pot with $147.75 with DougEMoldy
Creating Side Pot 1 with $15.20 with Hero

I've been going over this hand and am not sure what I could have done differently.

amoeba 07-26-2005 05:33 PM

Re: How would you have played this?
 
fold the flop or raise the flop.

you want to drive out flush draw and fold out missed overs.

jkkkk 07-26-2005 05:35 PM

Re: How would you have played this?
 
Fold pre-flop.

msb 07-26-2005 05:36 PM

Re: How would you have played this?
 
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Fold pre-flop.

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c'mon... this ain't a limit game.

amoeba 07-26-2005 05:40 PM

Re: How would you have played this?
 
i thought he was on the button, but yeah in middle position this is a fold preflop.

amoeba 07-26-2005 05:41 PM

Re: How would you have played this?
 
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Fold pre-flop.

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c'mon... this ain't a limit game.

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why is this a call in NL but a fold in limit?

jkkkk 07-26-2005 05:42 PM

Re: How would you have played this?
 
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Fold pre-flop.

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c'mon... this ain't a limit game.

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Your calling a UTG 4*bb raise in MP with 54s, this is -EV. Aside from the pre-flop play, flop is questionable. The turn card is perfect and your push is fine, the river is just plain unlucky unless someone flopped a set.

msb 07-26-2005 05:45 PM

Re: How would you have played this?
 
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fold the flop or raise the flop.

you want to drive out flush draw and fold out missed overs.

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Fair enough... but I had EP on a big pair (AA, KK, QQ) and was a little worried that if I raised, then he might push. (I didn't really put the button on anything at that point... although I knew a flush draw was a possibility.)

I know the call was a little loose, but I figured if I called, then the button would also probably call and I'd have the odds. Also, if I hit my straight and EP did have AA or KK, I'd probably get a lot more out of him.

amoeba 07-26-2005 05:48 PM

Re: How would you have played this?
 
odds to what? 6 outs with a possible redraw?

msb 07-26-2005 05:51 PM

Re: How would you have played this?
 
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Fold pre-flop.

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c'mon... this ain't a limit game.

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why is this a call in NL but a fold in limit?

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I'm looking to bust the guy if I can... I can't do that in limit, but I can in NL... especially if he's got KK or AA and I hit on the flop.


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