KK with an A on the flop
 

Just want to know if this is the standard line of play:

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (9.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 12.25 BB

Re: KK with an A on the flop
 

I'd give up on the river. I'd likely fold here too.

Re: KK with an A on the flop
 

I'm checking the river, and calling 1 if MP3 bets and UTG+1 folds. But if you do bet it, you have to fold to MP3's A3 raise.

Re: KK with an A on the flop
 

i like the turn bet, why bet the river? not betting it 4 value. i chk call river, but since u bet now u have to call b/c pot is big

Re: KK with an A on the flop
 

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I'm checking the river, and calling 1 if MP3 bets and UTG+1 folds. But if you do bet it, you have to fold to MP3's A3 raise.

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Perfect. This is a very good example of when you do not want to overcall.

Re: KK with an A on the flop
 

No bet/fold in a pot of that size. What if MP3 was raise bluffing thinking that you were continuing a bluff on your preflop raise. There is no reason to suggest he has an ace, and if he does it is with a PK. You might be beat but you have to call. A read is very important here, but if he's justr an average Joe, I'd say 2 pair or a hopeless bluff are what you'll see here quite often.

JT [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Re: KK with an A on the flop
 

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i like the turn bet, why bet the river? not betting it 4 value. i chk call river, but since u bet now u have to call b/c pot is big

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Why do you like the turn bet.

Re: KK with an A on the flop
 

big pot, im trying to showdown cheap..and nobody has shown any strgnth so far..i say bet and fold to raise

Re: KK with an A on the flop
 

Why did you bet the flop? Why did you bet the turn? Why did you bet the river? I don't see the logic in any of these plays.

Good luck.
Eric

Re: KK with an A on the flop
 

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big pot, im trying to showdown cheap..and nobody has shown any strgnth so far..i say bet and fold to raise

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If you want to showdown cheap, then why are you betting? Just think about what you basically told me. I am betting the turn, so I can showdown cheap. Does that make sense.