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PokerBob 07-18-2005 01:52 PM

This call is bad, but how bad?
 
With 1 being horrible and 10 being fine, rate this cold-call. FWIW, I play bad, so please do not state the obvious.

Canterbury 15/30 (9 handed)
A kid from the must move game has just sat down and has raised 7 of his 10 hands. He raises in EP after one limper. 3 cold callers, and I cold call in the CO with K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Flame.

hockey1 07-18-2005 01:59 PM

Re: This call is bad, but how bad?
 
It depends on a whole bunch of different things, but I'm going to give it a 6.5.

fnord_too 07-18-2005 02:01 PM

Re: This call is bad, but how bad?
 
That looks fine to me, so 10 I guess...

DeathDonkey 07-18-2005 02:05 PM

Re: This call is bad, but how bad?
 
How likely are we to get the button? I give it an 8. (I like it)

-DeathDonkey

mrkilla 07-18-2005 02:14 PM

Re: This call is bad, but how bad?
 
7
and 8 if the blinds call and the earlier limper doesnt make it 3 bets

also depends how they play post flop play of all invloved

Jeffage 07-18-2005 03:30 PM

Re: This call is bad, but how bad?
 
6.5 if you play well post flop. 3 if you don't.

Jeff

07-18-2005 11:27 PM

Re: This call is bad, but how bad?
 
You are getting fine odds to call 2 cold for your flush draw, but you aren't drawing to the nuts.

You could be in a lot of trouble if you make one pair on the flop. 2 pair, or a 77x flop would give you a monster, but a KKx flop would make you vulnerable to a K with higher kicker.

If you make a pair or any draw on the flop, expect to put a lot more in chasing.

I am going to go against the rest of the group, and just give this one a 4. I think this is a profitable enough game that you can wait for better starters.

girgy44 07-18-2005 11:34 PM

Re: This call is bad, but how bad?
 
Not calling here is terrible.

spoohunter 07-18-2005 11:37 PM

Re: This call is bad, but how bad?
 
Folding here is retarded.

Lestat 07-18-2005 11:41 PM

Re: This call is bad, but how bad?
 
The severity of pre-flop mistakes are almost always over blown.

In other words, when taken as just this one isolated incident, it can never be a huge pre-flop mistake to make this call from the cutoff, after a raise and 3 cold-callers, with K7s. However, the frequency of even minor pre-flop mistakes especially when combined with poor post-flop play can prove very costly in the long run.


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