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fluorescenthippo 07-17-2005 11:32 PM

Pushing 62o with shortstack allin
 
this is a 50+5.

5 handed. blinds 50/100. folded to button (170) who pushes.
i have 750 after posting the SB with 62o.
BB has 2000.

assuming BB doesnt call, its 120 to win 320 and im risking 16% of my stack. what do you guys think?

Paxosmotic 07-17-2005 11:36 PM

Re: Pushing 62o with shortstack allin
 
I'm wondering how you have the bankroll for the $55s.

If you want to Gigabet Dilemna the shortstack, why don't you just call and hope the BB gets out of the way? Do you really want to risk your entire stack with 62o because you vastly misunderstood what it meant to take a SLIGHTLY -EV situation?

fluorescenthippo 07-17-2005 11:40 PM

Re: Pushing 62o with shortstack allin
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'm wondering how you have the bankroll for the $55s.

If you want to Gigabet Dilemna the shortstack, why don't you just call and hope the BB gets out of the way? Do you really want to risk your entire stack with 62o because you vastly misunderstood what it meant to take a SLIGHTLY -EV situation?

[/ QUOTE ]

this has nothing to do with the gigabet dilemna. and if the shortstack didnt push i would be risking my entire stack here. you have no idea what you are talking about

curtains 07-17-2005 11:41 PM

Re: Pushing 62o with shortstack allin
 

Just fold, not the best time to go nuts.

fluorescenthippo 07-17-2005 11:41 PM

Re: Pushing 62o with shortstack allin
 
and this is clearly +EV if the BB doesnt call.

fluorescenthippo 07-17-2005 11:42 PM

Re: Pushing 62o with shortstack allin
 
[ QUOTE ]

Just fold, not the best time to go nuts.

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what about a more suitable holding, say Q9?

curtains 07-17-2005 11:43 PM

Re: Pushing 62o with shortstack allin
 

Q9o much stronger....tough to say, allin should be fine.

Paxosmotic 07-17-2005 11:46 PM

Re: Pushing 62o with shortstack allin
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I'm wondering how you have the bankroll for the $55s.

If you want to Gigabet Dilemna the shortstack, why don't you just call and hope the BB gets out of the way? Do you really want to risk your entire stack with 62o because you vastly misunderstood what it meant to take a SLIGHTLY -EV situation?

[/ QUOTE ]

this has nothing to do with the gigabet dilemna. and if the shortstack didnt push i would be risking my entire stack here. you have no idea what you are talking about

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If you push all in, you are risking your entire stack. The big blind could easily call, since your raise would represent only 1/3rd of his entire stack. Doing anything but folding 62o here is horrendous. And for more reasons why, here's Einbert.

einbert 07-17-2005 11:46 PM

Re: Pushing 62o with shortstack allin
 
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre> 14,958,687,744 games 28.047 secs 533,343,592 games/sec
equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 68.8831 % [ 00.68 00.01 ] { AA-22, AKs-A2s, KQs-K2s, QJs-Q2s, JTs-J2s, T9s, AKo-A2o,
KQo-K2o, QJo-Q2o, JTo-J2o, T9o }
Hand 2: 31.1169 % [ 00.30 00.01 ] { 62o }
</pre><hr />

And we have to figure out how often BB comes along, but if he comes along 0% of the time, we are contributing 39% of a pot where we only have 31% equity.

This should be a fold.

Fatdogs12 07-17-2005 11:50 PM

Re: Pushing 62o with shortstack allin
 
62 for me a definite fold, Q-9 probable push unless I know the next to act loves to gamble.


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