AK, worth getting stacked?
 

villain is classic TAG, not too agressive though 2.5 pfr, 3avg ag

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Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">8 folds</font>.

3 or so limps to Hero who raises to $2, one caller who is UTG+1.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
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UTG+1 bets $5, I call.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

UTG+1 bets $15, I fold.



I know this line is weak, I think I should of raised the flop to see where I was. Raise to $15?

Re: AK, worth getting stacked?
 

Stack sizes? I just don't see how you have any information to let you make this fold here... I think this flop needs a raise and, given your read, if you meet substantial resistance by all means fold, I just don't see how you KNOW you're behind in this spot.

Re: AK, worth getting stacked?
 

You don't have to KNOW you're behind in order for folding to be correct.

Re: AK, worth getting stacked?
 

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i don't think what you're saying applies here - hero has AK on an uncoordinated flop (well, unless you hold QT). You better know you're behind, or at least be very certain, if you fold this.

I raise on the flop to $15.

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i don't think what you're saying applies here - hero has AK on an uncoordinated flop (well, unless you hold QT). You better know you're behind, or at least be very certain, if you fold this.

I raise on the flop to $15.

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I agree that you should raise the flop here. Villian could be betting a King with a weak kicker to see where he's at, and when you just called, he decided he was ahead.

Re: AK, worth getting stacked?
 

Yep, I knew I should of, was just making sure that was the general consensus.

Re: AK, worth getting stacked?
 

I agree with everyone else. Re-raise flop, assuming you are not committed probably fold to a re-raise or a turn lead.

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I agree that you should raise the flop here. Villian could be betting a King with a weak kicker to see where he's at, and when you just called, he decided he was ahead.

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Re: AK, worth getting stacked?
 

if you're going to fold the turn when nothing has changed, then you should fold the flop. that's not a bad play against a typically passive TAG...you're generally only going to play a big pot with them when you're behind.

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if you're going to fold the turn when nothing has changed, then you should fold the flop. that's not a bad play against a typically passive TAG...you're generally only going to play a big pot with them when you're behind.

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I agree, calling the flop was just plain horrible. I imagine more than half the time he bets into me like this he has AK or better, though i don't think I can justify a fold on the flop, he might call down with a weaker K.