interesting TPGK flop decision
 

to me anyways.

I am in the BB with K9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
folded to sb (hasn't played a hand yet) who raises, i call.

flop (4SB):
2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

<font color="red">sb bets</font>, <font color="red">I raise</font>, <font color="red">sb 3-bets</font>, I...?

Re: interesting TPGK flop decision
 

I don't think you can cap. I'd call here and reevaluate on the turn whether I call down or raise it up.

Edit: You could also consider 3betting preflop. You have position, and a decent hand. However, not everyone adjusts their raising standards when it's folded to them in the SB.

Re: interesting TPGK flop decision
 

You have the button. SB might be on a steal attempt, and is OOP for the whole hand. Your hand is quite strong heads up. I would have 3-bet PF.

Given the way you played it, I'll cap the flop. Lead or call the turn. Check or call the river. I will not fold.

Edit: corrected action

Re: interesting TPGK flop decision
 

How many hands do you have on Villan? Looks a lot like an overpair to me, I call the flop 3-bet and re-evaluate on the turn.

Re: interesting TPGK flop decision
 

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I'll 3-bet the flop. If it gets capped, call down.

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villain 3-bet; do you mean i should call the 3-bet or cap it?

congrats btw, on your huge tourney win. talk about coming back in style!

Re: interesting TPGK flop decision
 

Cap, check behind on the turn and then call one on the river. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

The problem with just calling now and then raising the turn is that you will only fold out hands that have little chance. You will do better by either flat calling down or maybe even waiting until the river to raise. The only hands that you really don't want for him to have (if you take this approach) are JT/QT/QJ. The problem as I see it with raising the turn is that something like 77 will go away and AA will either calldown or 3-bet. If you get 3-bet on the turn you will be forced to take a look at the river to see if you can find anything.

FWIW I don't think he is on something like AQ/AJ (we don't really care if he has AK) in this spot and that is why I'm leaning more toward playing it carefully. OOP you would definately call here and then lead out on a 4th street brick.

Brad

Re: interesting TPGK flop decision
 

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I don't think you can cap. I'd call here and reevaluate on the turn whether I call down or raise it up.


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so this seems to me to be that, i am behind; yes? how many outs do i get?

Re: interesting TPGK flop decision
 

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I'll 3-bet the flop. If it gets capped, call down.

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villain 3-bet; do you mean i should call the 3-bet or cap it?

congrats btw, on your huge tourney win. talk about coming back in style!

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You quick quoter, you!

I fixed my post.

Re: interesting TPGK flop decision
 

Brad -

Are you taking this line to encourage a bluffer to continue to bluff?

If so, the opponent's flop 3-bet tells me 2 things: first, he's not inclined to let go of this pot, and second he's not inclined to stop bluffing.

For everyone else, one thing the opponent's 3-bet does *not* tell me is that he has some kind of huge hand. It's possible, but I'm not going to worry about that. Hero's hand is much to strong heads-up to consider letting go in to the muck.

Re: interesting TPGK flop decision
 

Call the flop. Check/fold the turn unimproved.

It's way too likely for the villain to have AA/KK. AA is slightly more likely, and you have some outs there, but you're drawing very slim to a KK hand.