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PTjvs 07-11-2005 08:39 PM

A simple flush hand
 
Reads: UTG is a relative unknown (20 or so hands), 30%ish VPIP, but not enough hands to really know anything. I have been way tight for me this session, VPIP of 12% in 120 hands or so. MP1 is a 34%/3% fish (125 hands). MP2 has been >50% VPIP & >10% PFR%, over only 50 hands. MP3 is a complete unknown. SB is a solid TAG, maybe ever overtight (15VPIP/11PFR%) over 250 hands.

Whew, now that that's out of the way, I think the hand is relatively simple, with the exception of the preflop action. One person Ive spoken to though supports 3betting the flop, although I can't see this as close to correct.


Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (25 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, SB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (22.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (27.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, SB calls, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 35.50 BB

JVS

brettbrettr 07-11-2005 08:40 PM

Re: A simple flush hand
 
Raise pre-flop, 3 bet flop.

baronzeus 07-11-2005 08:49 PM

Re: A simple flush hand
 
Since you're obviously at a 0.02/0.04 table, limping preflop with this hand is fine. Your K and your J likely aren't good. The cap at the end on te flop was fine.

The argument for 3betting is to clean your K and your J outs. But it can be argued that your K and your J aren't good here anyways, and you will likely only push people with worse straight draws out, but keep paired people in.

CashFlo 07-11-2005 08:55 PM

Re: A simple flush hand
 
Another argument for 3-betting is citing equity on his flush draw with 8 players in the pot. Am I right? or does that only apply to the Nut flush draw?


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