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meleader2 07-05-2005 09:38 PM

Top set folded
 
wow bison's is really botched, tried to fix it best i could...


villain in the hand was 3%/0% after 100 hands. PFA of .7
after his turn bet, if i had called he would have had a stack of 7$ left.


Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.25 BB (9 handed) converter

Hero ($68.90)
MP2 ($14.80)
MP3 ($7.45)
CO ($25.40)
Button ($31.05)
SB ($31.10)
BB ($8.90)
UTG ($7.70)
UTG+1 ($24.15)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
4 players ended up seeing this flop, noone raised.

Flop: ($1.35) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero bets pot ($1.50), Villain min raises to ($3). (2 folds), Hero calls ($1.50).

Turn: ($7ish) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks (should i have led the turn?) Villain bets pot ($7.35). Hero folds.

Final Pot: $14ish

jdaddy 07-05-2005 09:52 PM

Re: Top set folded
 
I would have put him all in there on the turn. I can't imagine being behind often enough for this not to be profitable. I would think re-raising is going to take the pot down in most cases.

Ghazban 07-05-2005 09:57 PM

Re: Top set folded
 
Weak. Too many combinations of: JJ,JT,T9,T8,98,87,88,77 around to fold. You don't mention which stack is villain's but putting 100xBB in on this hand is +EV in the long run without a read (which I assume you don't have as you didn't mention one).

empty 07-05-2005 10:03 PM

Re: Top set folded
 
If he has JQ, he has JQ. Most of the time he wont. Get him all in.

DMACM 07-05-2005 10:25 PM

Re: Top set folded
 
What position was villain in? If this guy is 3% vP$IP and not in a blind what are the odds he has a broadway? Maybe on the button but I doubt it, my guess is villan has a lower set or an overpair.

PoBoy321 07-05-2005 10:42 PM

Re: Top set folded
 
Push the flop. It's very likely that you have the best hand and if you're drawing, I'd rather have my money in as a 2:1 dog than a 4:1 dog on the turn.

Tim H 07-05-2005 10:53 PM

Re: Top set folded
 
weak ... of course i cant tell what villians stack is. if its smallish i would fold here

Student Caine 07-05-2005 10:54 PM

Re: Top set folded
 
I am as weak-tight as they come and I do not drop this hand.

I would have led the turn, but given that you did not and he bet I would have Check-Raised him the pot. He could have QJ here, but there are way too many other hands that he does this with (two pair or sets, all of which you have beat) - and on the off chance that he does have QJ you have outs.

srm80 07-05-2005 11:13 PM

Re: Top set folded
 
he also could have entered with 67s and flopped the bottom straight, which is more likely since the pot wasn't raised. After the straight hit he knew you would call a min-raise, and the turn was a safe card for his bottom straight so he made the pot-bet. Just a thought. I would have made it like 4 bets pre flop

xorbie 07-06-2005 12:10 AM

Re: Top set folded
 
This guy is waay more likely to play 88/99 than JQ, even suited.


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