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AngelicPenguin 07-03-2005 01:35 AM

Too aggressive with set?
 
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Villain (BB) was very loose and passive (66/2.3/.5), but I didn't notice anything else about her. How about the turn check/raise? Should I have just re-raised that flop, being somewhat coordinated?

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.75.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls.

River: (15.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 17.25 BB

NAU_Player 07-03-2005 01:44 AM

Re: Too aggressive with set?
 
Villain turns over a 9 for the turned straight.

3-bet the flop, bet/call the turn and hope for a boat on the river.

Redd 07-03-2005 01:46 AM

Re: Too aggressive with set?
 
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Villain turns over a 9 for the turned straight.

3-bet the flop, bet/call the turn and hope for a boat on the river.

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What he said.

eagletmr 07-03-2005 01:47 AM

Re: Too aggressive with set?
 
flop - not aggressive enough, three bet here to make him pay to draw.

turn - too aggressive. If he really is passive, he is turning over a 9 here, check call.

river - pray for a boat, if not, pot is still big enough to check call.

AngelicPenguin 07-03-2005 01:47 AM

Re: Too aggressive with set?
 
Check/call the river?

Redd 07-03-2005 01:50 AM

Re: Too aggressive with set?
 
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Check/call the river?

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I would.

NAU_Player 07-03-2005 01:56 AM

Re: Too aggressive with set?
 
Here's how it should look:

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.75.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, CO folds, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, Button calls.

Turn: (8.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Button folds, Hero calls.

River: (12.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.75 BB

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Edit: Looking at the hand again, I might consider a preflop raise to be a good idea here. It really just depends on your reads.

tinhat 07-03-2005 02:26 AM

Re: Too aggressive with set?
 
Maybe I shouldn't drink and drive but is pfr 99/9x with limpers and raising oesd passive? And why didn't he raise river? I would've guessed he had TT or maybe an overpair, didn't get a chance to rr flop and slowed down with the turn action thinking set of J (even though you didn't pfr) or two pair...

Mike

SoftcoreRevolt 07-03-2005 02:28 AM

Re: Too aggressive with set?
 
Someone who raises 2.3% of the time preflop is raising 99, or A9 here? I'd put him on JJ or TT before a straight.

NAU_Player 07-03-2005 02:37 AM

Re: Too aggressive with set?
 
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Someone who raises 2.3% of the time preflop is raising 99, or A9 here? I'd put him on JJ or TT before a straight.

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fair enough, but do you change how you play it from the way I posted?


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