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tanda 06-29-2005 09:13 PM

What\'s he/she got?
 
Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG (poster) raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (8.20 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, UTG calls.

River: (12.20 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.20 BB

1) What does opp have?

2) Was I correct to call, not raise, river?

brassnuts 06-29-2005 09:24 PM

Re: What\'s he/she got?
 
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What's he/she got?

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penis/vagina

Raise the river. Opponent most likely had AQ, KQ, KK, QJ... TT is possible.

Subfallen 06-29-2005 09:26 PM

Re: What\'s he/she got?
 
9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Raise the river.

timprov 06-29-2005 09:33 PM

Re: What\'s he/she got?
 
Who knows what an UTG poster might have? (I suspect he has Q8, T9, random crap, or 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].)

Dunno if I'd raise or not.

mungpo 06-29-2005 10:22 PM

Re: What\'s he/she got?
 
I don't think a call is bad here. I might have raised the river.

ggbman 06-29-2005 11:46 PM

Re: What\'s he/she got?
 
its either 9-T or QK and the call is fine IMO.

StellarWind 06-29-2005 11:55 PM

Re: What\'s he/she got?
 
My personal rule of thumb for one-pair hands is the third donk bet is on the house. Having raised the flop and the turn I'll just call this one. It's not uncommon for sets to play this way and I've already paid off as much as I should.

Without a read it's about 50-50 between losing to a monster and catching some slick-killer that's betting to prevent the free showdown.

One problem with raising is there is a real question whether you can get paid for being right. In particular a good player might sometimes bet the river with a hand that I beat, but only in a moment of weakness would he call the raise. If he felt he needed to call he wouldn't have bet.

baronzeus 06-30-2005 01:01 AM

Re: What\'s he/she got?
 
You'll see a lone Q here very often. I'd raise the river and fold to a 3bet against many opponents.

baronzeus 06-30-2005 01:03 AM

Re: What\'s he/she got?
 
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only in a moment of weakness would he call the raise.

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Any Q will call this riverraise on Party 5/10 6max. Especially if it's QJo or QJs

Jgents 06-30-2005 01:21 AM

Re: What\'s he/she got?
 
He has QJx, KQc, AQx, AQc, or perhaps even KKx. I would raise the river for value, since all the mentioned hands will call the raise.

Doh! Just read the responses. Brassnuts I believe has it about right.


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