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MrEngenic 06-29-2005 07:51 PM

J5 from BB 0.5/1 6 max
 
No reads on opponent. Go ahead and flame me...


Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP folds, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (5 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (7 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 10 BB

Petro 06-29-2005 08:33 PM

Re: J5 from BB 0.5/1 6 max
 
I think 3-betting the flop is some serious spewing. If you think UTG is going for a free-card, just donkbet the turn.

Mathieu 06-29-2005 09:20 PM

Re: J5 from BB 0.5/1 6 max
 
I've never played 6 max online so I don't know how the typical opponent plays. So please take my advice with a grain of salt.

If there were no flush draw on this board, I would be tempted to fold the flop (getting 7-1), but that would be bad for meta-game considerations. So I would take a card off and fold the turn unimproved. This might be too cautious for 6-max, but it is a 4 way pot so I would not expect it to be that different.


Since villain could have a flush draw, I would be tempted to just call the raise on the flop, and lead out if a safe card falls. I would do this against a predictable opponent that I know would be very unlikely to raise that turn without at least a better Jack. So I could fold to a turn raise.

Against an unknown, I might just go in call down mode unless a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] falls. Then I would be tempted to fold.

kapw7 06-29-2005 09:34 PM

Re: J5 from BB 0.5/1 6 max
 
Good 3-bet on the flop. With a better kicker I wait for the turn to C-R.
Check the river

BluEsiNsOuL 06-29-2005 09:38 PM

Re: J5 from BB 0.5/1 6 max
 
3-bet on the flop looks good to me, since lots of people raised you with 2nd pair. I will play the turn the same way, however with this river I will c/c the river. If there is some sort of read available I will c/f it.

Ortho 06-30-2005 05:59 AM

Re: J5 from BB 0.5/1 6 max
 
If this is early in the session I probably just fold the turn. If I've seen him get frisky with crap I probably just call down from the flop raise.

aK13 06-30-2005 06:33 AM

Re: J5 from BB 0.5/1 6 max
 
I'm fairly aggressive myself, and I don't really like the flop 3bet.

karitek 06-30-2005 07:10 AM

Re: J5 from BB 0.5/1 6 max
 
i think the 3-bet on the flop is OK because it's 6-max and players play aggressively. but it's pretty marginal. i don't think you lose much by calling the raise.

I'd check/call the river. no one with a worse hand is calling you. you might induce a bluff. and you don't want to be bluff raised out of the pot.


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