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Colombo 06-29-2005 12:17 AM

Line check please.
 
A little after first break in 25,000 guaranteed. Villian has been agressively raising my blind the past 2 orbits, and thats my only read.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) converter

Button (t7625)
Hero (t14370)
BB (t12570)
UTG (t16680)
UTG+1 (t4550)
MP1 (t11475)
MP2 (t6990)
CO (t6000)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t600</font>, Hero calls t500, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t1275) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t1100</font>, Hero calls t1100.

Turn: (t3475) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t1400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2800</font>, Button calls t1400.

River: (t9075) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t3000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t3100</font>, Hero calls t100.

Final Pot: t15275

you guys like? should i be raising this flop or is check/call fine. how about preflop?

Brad F. 06-29-2005 11:09 AM

Re: Line check please.
 
[ QUOTE ]
A little after first break in 25,000 guaranteed. Villian has been agressively raising my blind the past 2 orbits, and thats my only read.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) converter

Button (t7625)
Hero (t14370)
BB (t12570)
UTG (t16680)
UTG+1 (t4550)
MP1 (t11475)
MP2 (t6990)
CO (t6000)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t600</font>, Hero calls t500, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t1275) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t1100</font>, Hero calls t1100.

Turn: (t3475) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t1400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2800</font>, Button calls t1400.

River: (t9075) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t3000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t3100</font>, Hero calls t100.

Final Pot: t15275

you guys like? should i be raising this flop or is check/call fine. how about preflop?

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Hey, I actually like your line a lot. I really don't see what you're behind here for most of the hand. I like the smooth call on the flop because there is no doubt that your hand is good, and it might induce a repop on the turn from the aggressive player.

You got the repop, and you reraised him. However, I would reraise him a litle bit more here instead of a min-raise. Maybe all-in. I just feel at this point there are draws, and the pot is large as it is, I'd like to take down the 5000 and avoid possibly letting the villian hit his outs.

But at the same time, I don't see how that 7 of clubs really helped him, it's not that scary, staying in extract mode works fine here as well.

Overall I think you played it quite well. If the aggro villian checked on the flop i might suspect a set, but his flop bet really smelled of a steal attempt more than anything IMO.

I have this strange feeling that he had 8-8, but I think your line seems about right.

Brad

Sam T. 06-29-2005 11:23 AM

Re: Line check please.
 
Unless he's on a set the Button looks rather like a donkey:
-Overbet the flop
-Underbetting the turn.
-Calling the turn raise when you min-raise to juice the pot
-Going in on the river with anything less than a trips.

Anyway, to your play:
- I don't mind the call pre-flop, but a raise would work as well.
-Given his aggression, the check on the flop seems good. I'd probably raise it up here, but I'm trying to slow down and extract more chips when I'm way ahead (as you seem to be).
-I'd probably go ahead and put him all in on the turn, but if you think you can get him all-in on the intallment plan, the min-raise is good. It certainly ties him to the pot.
-I might bet less on the river. He'd have to call t1000 if he has any kind of hand, and would probably come over the top. If you put him all in like this, he may come to his senses and fold a weak ace. (Obviously not, but you get my point.)

Nice line. Hope he wasn't on 88.

Sam

HeroInBlack 06-29-2005 11:29 AM

Re: Line check please.
 
Personally, I like to respond to blind stealers with a stout reraise preflop rather than by calling, but I can see calling, too.

I don't mind the flop call, either.

When he called your raise on the turn, I would get a little worried, but not too bad.

Basically, I'd be willing to go to the felt with your two pair here. If I lose, oh well.

Brad F. 06-29-2005 11:56 AM

Re: Line check please.
 
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When he called your raise on the turn, I would get a little worried, but not too bad.

Basically, I'd be willing to go to the felt with your two pair here. If I lose, oh well.

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What would you be afraid of on the turn? 77?

I guess if you look at his wierd underbet on the turn two sevens could work, but I really am not scared of his call of a min-raise.

Brad

HeroInBlack 06-29-2005 12:06 PM

Re: Line check please.
 
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What would you be afraid of on the turn? 77?


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More likely TT or 22, but like I said, not very afraid. I'm not folding.

Brad F. 06-29-2005 02:29 PM

Re: Line check please.
 
Villian is a total donk if he bets the pot on a A-10-2 rainbow flop with a set of 2s or 10s.

Brad

Sam T. 06-29-2005 03:04 PM

Re: Line check please.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Villian is a total donk.

Brad

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Edited your post.

Actually the only hand that would excuse villain's play is A2, and even then he played it very sloppily.

Sam

locutus2002 06-29-2005 03:20 PM

Re: Line check please.
 
I like the way villain played it if he has TT. Other than that I think he overbet the flop on such a coordinated board, and should have checked behind at the turn if he only had top pr.

Brad F. 06-29-2005 03:38 PM

Re: Line check please.
 
[ QUOTE ]
I like the way villain played it if he has TT. Other than that I think he overbet the flop on such a coordinated board, and should have checked behind at the turn if he only had top pr.

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IMO, playing tens like that is bad unless you absolutely know that your opposition will pay you off. By the sound of the villian, I don't think he's that bright.

Brad


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