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edge 06-27-2005 04:19 AM

I am not a fan of AQ
 
Stats indicate that this player is tight and very aggressive, but I don't have any specific notes on him.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 max, 4 handed) converter

UTG ($554.1)
Button ($1541.9)
SB ($589)
Hero ($805.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $15</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $9.

Flop: ($33) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $25</font>, UTG calls $25.

Turn: ($83) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $60</font>, Hero calls $60.

River: ($203) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $130</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $300</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $633

KidPokerX 06-27-2005 04:24 AM

Re: I am not a fan of AQ
 
this is so wacky to me. i would have played this much differently. but first let me ask, why the fold on the river?

spahk 06-27-2005 04:42 AM

Re: I am not a fan of AQ
 
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this is so wacky to me. i would have played this much differently. but first let me ask, why the fold on the river?

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because hero can only beat a bluff, and this river raise is rarely a bluff.

spahk 06-27-2005 04:47 AM

Re: I am not a fan of AQ
 
i think your line was fine. i might lead the turn some percentage of the time, but your line has the advantage of clarity. what is bothering you about this hand?

thabadguy 06-27-2005 04:52 AM

Re: I am not a fan of AQ
 
Lead/CR turn(mostly CR), muck river.

edge 06-27-2005 05:00 AM

Re: I am not a fan of AQ
 
If I checkraise the turn, I can't see any hand I beat calling. I think leading the turn would probably be better.

thabadguy 06-27-2005 05:57 AM

Re: I am not a fan of AQ
 
I like CR'ing the turn here beacuse i normally bluff CR turn in shorthanded situations frequently so i would do this to balance it out. But leading is fine too.

soah 06-27-2005 06:17 AM

Re: I am not a fan of AQ
 
I'm just curious... what range of hands do you expect him to call you with on the river? One of the problems I've encountered when moving up in stakes is that when I try to act a little weak to get called by weaker hands, what actually ends up happening is that I face a lot of raises (or folds).

KaneKungFu123 06-27-2005 07:22 AM

Re: I am not a fan of AQ
 
[ QUOTE ]
Stats indicate that this player is tight and very aggressive, but I don't have any specific notes on him.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 max, 4 handed) converter

UTG ($554.1)
Button ($1541.9)
SB ($589)
Hero ($805.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $15</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $9.

Flop: ($33) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $25</font>, UTG calls $25.

Turn: ($83) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $60</font>, Hero calls $60.

River: ($203) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $130</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $300</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $633

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Well Played...

Proofrock 06-27-2005 06:00 PM

Re: I am not a fan of AQ
 
Could you explain the reasoning for this line, and why you think villain has AQ beat? You say UTG is tight &amp; aggressive -- what does he raise w/ preflop from UTG? Unless he would raise UTG with 77 (likely to do this shorthanded?), you're really only worried about AA and KK (QQ is also possible, but unlikely), correct? would AA / KK raise the river (if TPTK will fold to this raise, what would call except hands that beat AA or KK?), especially since your betting doesn't rule out you holding 5h6h.

If AA / KK raise the river, what about AQ, KQ, JJ, 10-10 (i.e., does villain have any reason to figure you for a queen?)? What hands would raise the river, and what hands would just call?

I'm probably a sucker and would have paid villain off here, but I'm not convinced he has me beat enough of the time to make a fold correct. Have I missed anything here?


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