Adjustment to loose passive passive passive game.
 

Ok, I'm on the button with pocket nines. I've seen people limp with pocket tens, pocket jacks and pocket queens. About half the time pocket kings will raise PF and half the time it won't. I saw somebody limp with pocket aces last week; I wouldn't rule it out.

Ok, so I have a good, certainly playable hand, but no confidence that it is best. Should I raise?

Well, I was wondering how do you adjust to a situation like this? If nobody raises with less than pocket kings, why reraise with less than wired aces?

And lots of things people do in this game start to make a certain amount of sense. Limp with any suited. Limp with unsuited connectors. I mean if you are going to get pot odds to chase a gut shot, unsuited connectors can see the flop a lot of times and you'll get implied odds.

OTOH, a big pair at the showdown usually won't win, so why play big cards?

While no book can do justice to all possible poker games, I'm starting to think SSHE is insufficient and there's a book waiting to be written about how to beat SS games that go beyond amateur and border on stupid.

Re: Adjustment to loose passive passive passive game.
 

Presumably, you're better off raising since you're in a passive game. You can't simply play the waiting game with them and only raise your super-premium hands. I completely agree that the popular books do not do justice to borderline games tha seem profitable but often end up midly so and extremely frustrating. It seems like a no brainer, but these bizarre games are such that they often force you to play substantially differently than against respectable players.

Re: Adjustment to loose passive passive passive game.
 

Even tho I have a pretty good hand, I'm probably need to flop a set. With four-five limpers already in the stew. I don't think a raise will fold any blinds I want to get rid of. Even if no overcards flop, either one will show up later or there will be a strong straight draw on the board.
And I can't be sure there's no overpairs out there, tho there probably isn't.

On the actual hand, the flop was Q-J-X. It was checked to me. I suppose a case could be made to check it through but I bet to try to fold some over cards. The turn card was a ten. So an eight is my only clean out even tho a nine and a king improves my hand. Somebody bet, I called and I don't remember how many callers there are. I almost have odds to look for an eight. A blank hit on the river and I folded.

Anyways, my point is I have a lot of questions and they aren't really coverred in SSHE. Not sure of my PF play, flop play, turn play. Pretty sure my fold is correct with three overcards.

I can post this hand on small stakes and see what people think, but my point is you would play this hand differently on the internet.