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VBM 06-25-2005 04:48 AM

Yeuts & Olliejen mix it up...
 
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Yeuts calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Yeuts bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Yeuts 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Yeuts calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Yeuts bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Yeuts 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Yeuts calls.

River: (14.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Yeuts bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Yeuts 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 20.25 BB

Results:
Yeuts has 9c Kh (straight, king high).
Hero has Kd Ah (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins 20.25 BB.


****next hand****

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Yeuts 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Yeuts bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Yeuts 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Yeuts bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9 BB

Results:
No showdown. Yeuts shows KAo &amp; wins 9 BB.

milesdyson 06-25-2005 06:08 AM

Re: Yeuts & Olliejen mix it up...
 
hand 1: i hate his flop 3-bet, your cap, and his river bet. he should be check calling the river. the single hand you could have that he beats is A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9:spade.

hand 2: obviously your limp is terrible, as is your call of the raise and 3-bet. beyond that neither of you did anything wrong, really. you wouldn't raise the flop with a jack, and if he thought he could blow you off a 5 with a flop 3-bet and turn lead, then good play by him.

deepsquat 06-25-2005 06:30 AM

Re: Yeuts & Olliejen mix it up...
 
Looking at the way he played hand1 i would be calling hand 2 down. He could easily have any two overcards inhand2.

Against your average player i fold but a 2+2er vs a 2+2er the flop 3bet means nothing imo

McGahee 06-25-2005 09:52 AM

Re: Yeuts & Olliejen mix it up...
 
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Looking at the way he played hand1 i would be calling hand 2 down. He could easily have any two overcards inhand2.


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If Ollie is ahead on the turn, his opponent has 6 clean outs. A raise on the turn would've been much better than a call-down, as it gives you good folding equity, and no sane player is 3-betting the turn with a worse hand. Perfect spot for the 'free showdown' play.

FWIW, I made the exact same play as Yeuts the other day with A6 HU on a paired board. I took it down on the turn just the same, but I'm not really sure if it's a good line against a typical 1/2 player.

bottomset 06-25-2005 10:44 AM

Re: Yeuts & Olliejen mix it up...
 
these hand to be hands from a 2+2table with heavy donking right?

handsome 06-25-2005 01:22 PM

Re: Yeuts & Olliejen mix it up...
 
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Yeuts raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (5 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Yeuts bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Yeuts bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (5.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Yeuts bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 8d 5d (one pair, eights).
Yeuts has 7d 9d (high card, king).
Outcome: Hero wins 7.50 BB. </font>

You should know by now that Yeuts donates with pleasure and that you should call him down with anything higher than 9 high.

Stuey 06-25-2005 02:10 PM

Re: Yeuts & Olliejen mix it up...
 
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You should know by now that Yeuts donates with pleasure and that you should call him down with anything higher than 9 high.

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Good read. Probably the easiest one ever but a good one.

VBM 06-25-2005 06:43 PM

Re: Yeuts & Olliejen mix it up...
 
dude, you were there too! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

VBM 06-25-2005 07:11 PM

Re: Yeuts & Olliejen mix it up...
 
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obviously your limp is terrible

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eh...yeah. you're right, pretty much ridiculous
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as is your call of the raise

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can't quibble there either...
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and 3-bet

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man, at this point its still bad? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

if you hated that, i wonder what this hand may induce...
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">gharp43 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">gharp43 caps</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (21.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">gharp43 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, gharp43 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP1 calls, Button calls, gharp43 calls.

Turn: (18.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
gharp43 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, Button calls, gharp43 calls.

River: (22.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
gharp43 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">gharp43 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP1 folds, gharp43 calls.

Final Pot: 29.75 BB

Results:
gharp43 has Ah As (two pair, aces and twos).
Hero has 5d 3d (straight, six high).
Outcome: Hero wins 29.75 BB.

gharp43: son of a...


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