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TxDozerMan 06-23-2005 01:51 PM

Do you make this bubble call?
 
We are down to 4 players so aggression is everywhere, someone is raising all-in on almost every hand. Is this a no-brainer call because of the blinds? I only ask because if I call I am either in a coinflip getting good odds or dominated. If this is an easy call what about 33 or 22? If this is a fold where do you change your mind?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (4 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero (t1845)</font>
UTG (t2640)
<font color="#C00000">Button (t1100)</font>
SB (t2415)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero ???

Converter messed up button pushed, then folded to me.

Myst 06-23-2005 01:53 PM

Re: Do you make this bubble call?
 
I respectfully fold.

Imagine if you were playing a Step 5 higher... Would you take a 50% chance to become a significant shorty and be forced to push any two into 3 very large stacks?

Lady Dont Tekno 06-23-2005 01:55 PM

Re: Do you make this bubble call?
 
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Imagine if you were playing a Step 5 higher...


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Hrm interesting idea. I should probably start playing like that.

LDT

wiggs73 06-23-2005 02:03 PM

Re: Do you make this bubble call?
 
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Imagine if you were playing a Step 5 higher...


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Hrm interesting idea. I should probably start playing like that.

LDT

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No, you shouldn't. 1) You aren't playing a step 5 higher and 2) Neither are your opponents.

Myst 06-23-2005 02:24 PM

Re: Do you make this bubble call?
 
My point was to treat each decision with the weight of importance of a Step 5 higher, nothing more.

pokerlaw 06-23-2005 02:50 PM

Re: Do you make this bubble call?
 
dont call w 44. you are either:

1) a coinflip; or
2) a 20% dog.

if you lose, you will hurting. let him have this hand.

schilling38 06-23-2005 03:11 PM

Re: Do you make this bubble call?
 
what if he has 88-TT?

Any read on pusher, is he loose as hell, then he may have one or even two cards lower than the pocket pairs I mentioned.

TxDozerMan 06-23-2005 03:26 PM

Re: Do you make this bubble call?
 
You are definately right, the best I can hope for here is a coinflip. I also think that most of the time, that is what it will be, so those 1.9:1 odds are pretty enticing, especially since I am on the good side of the coin.

The Button here is not a tight player, nor is he a maniac, he is just your average $20 player, he doesn't have 72 here, but probably not a big hand either.

I think from a pot odds point of view this is an easy call, but will folding earn more $$ in the long run? If I fold this villian will have T1500 and I will be at T1545, making us equally short stacks. Do you call with 55,66, or 77?

11t 06-23-2005 03:38 PM

Re: Do you make this bubble call?
 
Easy fold, but I call with TT+

You should be looking to call with a hand that is better than a coinflip

Jonathan 06-23-2005 03:46 PM

Re: Do you make this bubble call?
 
My first instinct is to call.

When running the numbers through eastbay´s tool,
its 2.1% +ev to call if opponent is loose (which it
sounds like they are from your post).

Suerte,
Jonathan


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