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JackThree 06-23-2005 02:57 AM

player differences between .5/1 and 1/2 @ party
 
i don't know how to play 1/2

do i play it the same way I play .50/1

what is the difference between .5/1 and 1/2 that makes me need to adjust my play

thanks

cold_cash 06-23-2005 03:00 AM

Re: player differences between .5/1 and 1/2 @ party
 
There are a few more tight and, relatively speaking, better players.

It's nothing to get worked about though.

If you can beat one you can beat the other.

TomBrooks 06-23-2005 03:01 AM

Re: player differences between .5/1 and 1/2 @ party
 
Not the same. There are some threads about this within the last week. Check the list of posts going back a few days.

JackThree 06-23-2005 03:01 AM

Re: player differences between .5/1 and 1/2 @ party
 
thanks

DavidC 06-23-2005 03:03 AM

Re: player differences between .5/1 and 1/2 @ party
 
if the players are better and more aggressive, your edge will be less bb/100 than before, and therefore you should expect greater swings in terms of bb/100 over 5k hands or so.

twice the cash means you can play half the tables at the same hourly rate while getting better education / 100 hands. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

TomBrooks 06-23-2005 03:11 AM

Re: player differences between .5/1 and 1/2 @ party
 
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There are a few more tight and, relatively speaking, better players. It's nothing to get worked about though.

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- I'm finding it quite a bit tighter.

- I've dropped my VPIP from 30 to 25. Maybe if you played .5/1 at VPIP 25 or lower, it doesn't seem like as much of an adjustment.

- I thought I was raising more, but PT is telling me I'm raising both around the same 9.5% to 10%.

- I'm stealing more blinds.

sholvar 06-23-2005 04:16 AM

Re: player differences between .5/1 and 1/2 @ party
 
Because there are much more better players on this stake, you must have a good and nearly complete Pokertracker-Database, because you want to play against the noobs. And you need to play a little tighter. Some Hands like 99 you raise for value profitable if there are many bad and loose players on this table. But if the opponents play tighter 99 is no hand for preflop valueraises, because your opponents will call and reraise you only with hands that are better than your 99 most times.

bottomset 06-23-2005 04:23 AM

Re: player differences between .5/1 and 1/2 @ party
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
There are a few more tight and, relatively speaking, better players. It's nothing to get worked about though.

[/ QUOTE ]
- I'm finding it quite a bit tighter.

- I've dropped my VPIP from 30 to 25. Maybe if you played .5/1 at VPIP 25 or lower, it doesn't seem like as much of an adjustment.

- I thought I was raising more, but PT is telling me I'm raising both around the same 9.5% to 10%.

- I'm stealing more blinds.

[/ QUOTE ]

30VPIP is 5-7% too high at .5/1, 25VPIP is prob a couple points to high as well

and if you are playing that many hands you need a PFR of 12-13ish

its not that tough of game to beat though, a little tighter, slightly better/more aggro players but overall still a soft game


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Because there are much more better players on this stake, you must have a good and nearly complete Pokertracker-Database

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no you don't first off they are a little better, but not much, they don't payoff in general with junk as often, and are a little tighter ... but most of the players are still pretty bad

aK13 06-23-2005 05:05 AM

Re: player differences between .5/1 and 1/2 @ party
 
My PT database is very incomplete, and I have no troubles beating the .5/1, 1/2 games (or 2/4 for that matter). PT is helpful, but it is definitely not necessary at all. I'm sure a lot of players here could crush those limits just as easily without it.

At .5/1, a good, loose table ends up being about 8BB average pots with about 40%+ VPIP. A good 1/2 table is about 6-7 BB average pots with VPIP about 35% (from my experience). You shouldn't have to make many adjustments to beat it, just be aware of more aggresive players.

NDHand 06-23-2005 05:08 AM

Re: player differences between .5/1 and 1/2 @ party
 
If you were a "much better player" wouldnt you rather play at 2/4 and up?

It's a little bit tighter/aggressive but I wouldnt say it's filled with "much better players" and that it requires a complete PT database.


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