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Dov 06-18-2005 12:09 AM

HELP - I keep getting killed with AA
 
I must be doing something wrong because this has been happening to me quite frequently this week.

Help is welcome anywhere you see it necessary.

Villain in this hand is: 53/6/1

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">BB ($177.1)</font>
UTG ($30.74)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($84.3)</font>
Button ($94.33)
SB ($139.21)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls $2.50, BB calls $2.

Flop: ($9) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, SB calls $6, BB calls $6.

Turn: ($27) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $18</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $36</font>, Hero calls $18.

River: ($99) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $40</font>, Hero calls $39.30 (All-In).

Final Pot: $178.30

Malachii 06-18-2005 12:30 AM

Re: HELP - I keep getting killed with AA
 
This looks fine. Just a bad beat. I don't think there's anyway I fold this river getting 3.4-1.

Dov 06-18-2005 12:34 AM

Re: HELP - I keep getting killed with AA
 
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I don't think there's anyway I fold this river getting 3.4-1.

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I was more worried about the earlier streets, I guess.

In retrospect, I think I should have made it 5 or so PF and maybe pushed on the turn.

Is the way I actually played it better than this line?

Does anyone else release this on the turn?

imported_anacardo 06-18-2005 12:34 AM

Re: HELP - I keep getting killed with AA
 
Pot the flop, maybe even bet $12. It's a draw-heavy board that you have no piece of. A smooth call should set you to thinking.

Since you posted, I can only assume that the villain had a five or a set that filled up on the turn. If a five that wasn't part of a spade draw or something, reload &amp; add to your buddy list. If a set... pwned? But a bigger flop bet would have put you in a very different position, I think.

Malachii 06-18-2005 12:43 AM

Re: HELP - I keep getting killed with AA
 
I think the flop bet is fine. I was reading Matt Matros's book in which he says that the best way to build a pot is to bet between 1/3rd and 2/3rds of the pot, so 2/3rds is pretty much my standard bet size in this situation. It gives bad odds to the first caller if he's drawing and usually picks up a call. I would've bet the full pot on the turn, because two callers is one too many + it prices both callers out of a flush draw. That five doesn't look particularly scary. I might have folded to that check minraise, but probably not.
Just bad luck I guess.

soah 06-18-2005 12:45 AM

Re: HELP - I keep getting killed with AA
 
How many hands do you have on him? Getting checkraised by a guy with an AF of 1.0 is somewhat alarming, but it depends on your read in the end.

imported_anacardo 06-18-2005 12:49 AM

Re: HELP - I keep getting killed with AA
 
I'unno about that. Do you WANT to build a pot in this situation? Hero's hand is strong, but vulnerable, and he needs to find out where he's at in a hurry, unless he's cool with being stacked w/ aces every time he's behind with them.

Dov 06-18-2005 12:49 AM

Re: HELP - I keep getting killed with AA
 
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Since you posted, I can only assume that the villain had a five or a set that filled up on the turn.

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He showed me K5 and I felt like I got punched in the face.

I got pwned alright.

Dov 06-18-2005 12:52 AM

Re: HELP - I keep getting killed with AA
 
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How many hands do you have on him?

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Only about 100.

I thought about it too...

I just couldn't believe that he had played a hand with a 5 in it. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Now, I'll believe anything.

imported_anacardo 06-18-2005 12:54 AM

Re: HELP - I keep getting killed with AA
 
Rag-ass two pair is unexpected, but not unreasonable, given his numbers. Was it at least sooooted?


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