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cdxx 06-16-2005 05:49 PM

bad run or something i have to work on? stats included
 
don't know what to blame the horrendous results on, a bad run or some horrible leak exposed at 1/2 (*shudder*).

aggression factor is rought equal. attempts to steal i could cut back on, but still... basically, i haven't changed my game but my bank got pounded. what can you tell me about 1/2 that's not true at .5/1???

any ideas? stats image
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Jakesta 06-16-2005 05:54 PM

Re: bad run or something i have to work on? stats included
 
Is this a joke?

Your VP$IP is at least 7 points too high for 1/2 full, unless these are 6max stats.

cdxx 06-16-2005 05:58 PM

Re: bad run or something i have to work on? stats included
 
but how is it different from .5/1? why does 27 vpip work down there?

i am perfectly willing to play tighter, i just need some reasoning

Jakesta 06-16-2005 05:59 PM

Re: bad run or something i have to work on? stats included
 
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but how is it different from .5/1? why does 27 vpip work down there?

i am perfectly willing to play tighter, i just need some reasoning

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27 VP$IP doesn't work at .5/1 either. That's still at least 5 points too high. It looks like you had a great bit of luck at .5/1. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

cdxx 06-16-2005 06:02 PM

Re: bad run or something i have to work on? stats included
 
[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] i hope so.

btw, the poker tracker guide's autorate rules suggest that vpip < 24 is tight or good, 24-28 is neutral, and they say being solid is alot more important than being tight, as long as you are not > 28. any truth to that on microlimits?

Jakesta 06-16-2005 06:04 PM

Re: bad run or something i have to work on? stats included
 
You are playing some shitty hands if you have a 27 VP$IP over 10,000 hands. It is just that simple. Your VP$IP at upper limmits should be below 20, but at .5/1 it can be as high 22, assuming that you play excellently postflop. But a 26 VP$IP at 1/2 is insane.

PokerMatt 06-16-2005 06:16 PM

Re: bad run or something i have to work on? stats included
 
10k hands isn't really a significant sample size. You got a little bit lucky if you're VPIP is 27%. A friend of mine, who I'm trying to convert back from the "dark side," has a $VPIP of 40% but he still is at 2.26 BB/100 (only 2500 hands but it still shows that you can have short-term luck even if you're that loose). He stubbornly refuses to listen (says you "can't just follow what some book says"), saying his win rate justifies his play. After all, results are the only thing that really matters!

Anyway, enough of that rant... don't want to get too off-topic. Basically, 27% is too high; you should shoot for at least 7% lower. I generally follow the tight charts from SSHE with a few extra hands added in depending on the game and I'm at 17.45%. I'm not saying to do exactly what I do, but you should play less hands overall.

grjr 06-16-2005 06:17 PM

Re: bad run or something i have to work on? stats included
 
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27 VP$IP doesn't work at .5/1 either.

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Jakesta 06-16-2005 06:20 PM

Re: bad run or something i have to work on? stats included
 
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27 VP$IP doesn't work at .5/1 either.

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I think that it's too loose to make profit at .5/1 over the long run, and I doubt that our friend here plays that well postflop if he doesn't see why having a 26 VP$IP at Party 1/2 is a bad idea.

aK13 06-16-2005 06:23 PM

Re: bad run or something i have to work on? stats included
 
27% VPIP with 11 PFR, winning 55% of your showdowns and scoring 4BB/100, you're just on a good run at .5/1

The -15BB/100 is probably the downswing that was bound to occur from your good run.

You should be in the range of 18-22 VPIP, and 9 PFR at both of these limits. Make a VERY detailed list/chart of your starting hands based on position and limpers and post it here so we can see where you need to tighten up.


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