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og5 06-15-2005 02:16 AM

TPGK against a passive aggessor
 
Villian is 29/4/.75 Sort of a timing tell, Villian takes about 10-15 to think when raising and calling the 3bet, but doesn't hesitate for a second on the turn. I was about to dump my TPGK on the river but I improved, comments on all streets appreciated (How is the preflop call with 2 cold callers?)

Thanks

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (11.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds, Hero calls.

River: (15.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 17.25 BB

toss 06-15-2005 02:21 AM

Re: TPGK against a passive aggessor
 
Is that sort of villain capable of raising just a flush draw?

ihardlyknowher 06-15-2005 02:26 AM

Re: TPGK against a passive aggessor
 
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Villian is 29/4/.75 Sort of a timing tell, Villian takes about 10-15 to think when raising and calling the 3bet, but doesn't hesitate for a second on the turn. I was about to dump my TPGK on the river but I improved, comments on all streets appreciated (How is the preflop call with 2 cold callers?)

Thanks

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (11.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds, Hero calls.

River: (15.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 17.25 BB

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If you play this hand and then do this:
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I was about to dump my TPGK on the river

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... then you should most certainly fold this pre-flop.

og5 06-15-2005 02:30 AM

Re: TPGK against a passive aggessor
 
I only have stats on him which would suggest not.

As far as folding preflop because I was going to fold the river, don't you think his postflop actions mattered? What's he going to value bet that I beat? (assuming I didn't pick up the 2 pair, remember this guys is passive)

JoshuaD 06-15-2005 02:34 AM

Re: TPGK against a passive aggessor
 
I think you're good to raise/call this river. He's probably got a big pair after he played the flop and turn that way, (AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT), and there's only 2 ways for him to have TT and KK. I think that river is a clear value raise.

kwc98 06-15-2005 01:06 PM

Re: TPGK against a passive aggessor
 
I like every street, PF to river.


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