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mockingbird 06-10-2005 04:30 PM

Too passive with pocket 88\'s ??
 
My real question is: Should I have bet the turn?

If I had, it seems like anyone with overcards (except an OESD) would have to fold or make a -EV call. Is this right? I guess I didnt want to get raised or c/r by player with a 9 or a J. As it is I think I may have allowed Villain to draw out on me for free.

Also, please let me know what I am doing wrong that I get that "#A500AF" or whatever before the word "Villain" in the Preflop description.


Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB :#A500AF(Villain)/ calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Villain checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Villain calls, UTG+2 folds.

Turn: (5.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Villain checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

River: (5.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Villain bets</font>, Hero folds, CO folds.

Final Pot: 6.75 BB

Thanks

J.R. 06-10-2005 04:34 PM

Re: Too passive with pocket 88\'s ??
 
yes

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I guess I didnt want to get raised or c/r by player with a 9 or a J.

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why not, you have no decent draw nor any reason to think this possibility will occur frequently

blatz 06-10-2005 04:38 PM

Re: Too passive with pocket 88\'s ??
 
Good chance the CO is on overcards that don't contain a Jack. It's a bet that needs to be made. At this point you still have to think the pot is yours, and reevaluate if someone tells you otherwise.

Buck_65 06-10-2005 04:47 PM

Re: Too passive with pocket 88\'s ??
 
Not raising preflop is an egregious error. You should bet the turn to knock out naked aces or other overcards like KT. I don't like how this hand is played at all.

PokerSparky 06-10-2005 04:49 PM

Re: Too passive with pocket 88\'s ??
 
You have to bet this turn IMO

J.R. 06-10-2005 05:04 PM

Re: Too passive with pocket 88\'s ??
 
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Not raising preflop is an egregious error

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limping is fine

Buck_65 06-10-2005 05:06 PM

Re: Too passive with pocket 88\'s ??
 
[ QUOTE ]
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Not raising preflop is an egregious error

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limping is fine

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Pretty weak IMHO. Maybe I'm turning LAG.

mister 06-10-2005 05:12 PM

Re: Too passive with pocket 88\'s ??
 
I agree that in that position, you're trying to win with your 88s unimproved. I'd raise them every time.


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