Would you call this River Bet when it\'s 2 back 2 u?
 

The table was playing really tight except for Villian and donkmasterR. Villian was 63% VPIP 23% PFR he could have anything. DonkmasterR would play every hand, and always raised. I only called the PF bet because they noticed I was playing tight, and the last couple of times I came in with a raise I didn't get much action. Most say it's a mistake, but it seemed like a good play at that table, at that time.



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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG :#A500AF(donkmasterR)/ calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 :#A500AF(villian)/ raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG :#A500AF(donkmasterR)/ calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">donkmasterR raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">villian 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls, donkmasterR calls, villian calls.

Turn: (12.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">donkmasterR bets</font>, villian calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">donkmasterR 3-bets</font>, villian calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, donkmasterR calls, villian calls.

River: (24.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">donkmasterR bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">villian raises</font>, Hero ??

All of a sudden villian wakes up again. donkmasterR has to have a big hand right?

Re: Would you call this River Bet when it\'s 2 back 2 u?
 

I don't see how you can fold this with over 24BB in the pot. Seems like the river will cap, but it would be a huge mistake to fold the best hand here.

Re: Would you call this River Bet when it\'s 2 back 2 u?
 

no you can't fold, but you don't win very often

Re: Would you call this River Bet when it\'s 2 back 2 u?
 

I probably grunch my teeth and call this down. If it's 3-bet and capped back, then I'd consider folding.

Re: Would you call this River Bet when it\'s 2 back 2 u?
 

I'm perhaps too agressive, but I'd most likely raise. But then again, given the action they're giving you, especially since they know how tight u are, I might be a mistake to raise....

But I'd definately call due to the big pot...

Re: Would you call this River Bet when it\'s 2 back 2 u?
 

it's not the focus of the hand, but why just call pf?

Re: Would you call this River Bet when it\'s 2 back 2 u?
 

GIven your reads, I don't see any reason to give donkm. credit for a big hand. Villain may have A-Q but could also have A-k, or a number of hands that you beat. I wouldn't fold this in this large pot unless you shot me, even if I was 98% sure I was beat. And I'm not sure I would worry about not getting much action from these guys if I were you.

Re: Would you call this River Bet when it\'s 2 back 2 u?
 

3-bet preflop.!!!

Anyway i don't think I can lay this one down, but I don't know if calling down is the right move either.

Re: Would you call this River Bet when it\'s 2 back 2 u?
 

Have you noticed if one or the other folds on the river leaving just one to showdown? It looks like either collusion or just 2 maniacs on the same table.

I call it down. No telling what a maniac has.

Re: Would you call this River Bet when it\'s 2 back 2 u?
 

why no 3bet PF?

my line here is punch a wall, and call.

EDIT - I'm with Isura here too, I strongly consider tossing it if it's 2 back to me