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Roybert 06-02-2005 11:40 PM

I hate overcards
 
I was lost on this one. Any help?

Paradise Poker 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.35.
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (11.80 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.90 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, BB calls.

River: (12.90 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 14.90 BB

TripleH68 06-02-2005 11:47 PM

Re: I hate overcards
 
Seems like if you want to continue in this one you should raise the flop.

Did you have any specific reads?

Roybert 06-02-2005 11:52 PM

Re: I hate overcards
 
I hated the flop call. MP3 was agressive, but not overly loose or tight. I respected him.

No reads on BB.

Bodhi 06-02-2005 11:53 PM

Re: I hate overcards
 
I think you can be pretty certain that this will be raised behind you. Even if you raise the flop, you'll get 3-bet. If you're Ace outs are good, your Jack outs likely are not.

Fold the flop.

irishpint 06-02-2005 11:56 PM

Re: I hate overcards
 
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I think you can be pretty certain that this will be raised behind you. Even if you raise the flop, you'll get 3-bet. If you're Ace outs are good, your Jack outs likely are not.

Fold the flop.

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really good idea. i was thinking with out bd straight and our overcards to raise this but you're right, i think we get 3 bet and should just abandon this to the flop bet. nice.

UncleSalty 06-02-2005 11:58 PM

Re: I hate overcards
 
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Seems like if you want to continue in this one you should raise the flop.

Did you have any specific reads?

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I agree, but I prefer folding against an unknown. Playing this hand OOP with a bet ahead of us and the PF 3-bettor yet to act sucks.

Bodhi 06-03-2005 12:07 AM

Re: I hate overcards
 
With all the gaps our bd straight draw is worth even less than a 3 straight of course.


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