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GtrHtr 05-31-2005 11:40 AM

Your play here....
 
I'm really having a tough time with middle pairs in the early levels and didn't really like limping here but honestly didn't know what to do.

Post flop, I'm completely confused by the reraise and then re-reraise by UTG+1 and then the BB. I can't put either on 99 but maybe an overpair or A9, K9.

No real reads yet.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t40 (8 handed) converter

Hero (t2270)
SB (t2710)
BB (t1395)
UTG (t310)
UTG+1 (t3480)
MP1 (t1040)
MP2 (t1810)
CO (t1985)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

1 fold, UTG+1 calls t40, 1 fold, MP2 calls t40, 1 fold, Hero calls t40, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t200) 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets t40, MP2 calls t40, Hero raises to t80, SB folds, BB calls t80, UTG+1 raises to t120, MP2 folds, Hero calls t40, BB raises to t330, UTG+1 calls t210, Hero calls t210.

I was thinking push here but again was thinking WTF?

What is your play here...

MrX 05-31-2005 11:46 AM

Re: Your play here....
 
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kyro 05-31-2005 11:48 AM

Re: Your play here....
 
1) Call and look to fill up on turn. If not, and BB bets out big, fold.

2) Beat yourself for minraising the flop.

It should be pretty obvious that BB has 86 here about 95% of the time.

bluefeet 05-31-2005 11:54 AM

Re: Your play here....
 

could be wrong, but i would put BB on a straight. it would have sucked, but i would have folded to BB's raise t330.

you're only T160 into the pot at this point, and you are still in great standing. a chance you're still ahead vs. an overpair, baby set, A9, etc. but there is far too much action on the flop for my liking.

mlagoo 05-31-2005 12:14 PM

Re: Your play here....
 
The only problem is that at this point you want to see a cheap showdown, and there is very little chance of that. I think I grudgingly call BB's final raise on the flop, praying I fill up, and then fold to his inevitable all-in on the turn. If by some miracle it checks to you, take the free card and hope to fill up again. I probably call a small river value bet from the BB here, but I'll fold to most reasonable bets at this point.

Karak567 05-31-2005 12:14 PM

Re: Your play here....
 
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It should be pretty obvious that BB has 86 here about 95% of the time.

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You're joking, right?

kyro 05-31-2005 12:15 PM

Re: Your play here....
 
Joking? Not really. Exaggerating? Yeah probably.

Honestly though, put BB on a hand. That is exactly how the majority of players would play 86.

2planka 05-31-2005 12:22 PM

Re: Your play here....
 
PF limp is okay.

Very poor flop play. You're behind 99 and 86. Min raising accomplishes nothing here. I like a pot size raise.

Push when the action is back to you. The pot is large and the board is draw heavy. If you're shown 86 then it's no big deal - you have a redraw and well, he got lucky. If you're called and shown 9x, 2 pair, or AA-TT then good for you. If you're shown 99 just type "nh" and fire up the next one.

Karak567 05-31-2005 12:26 PM

Re: Your play here....
 
[ QUOTE ]
Joking? Not really. Exaggerating? Yeah probably.

Honestly though, put BB on a hand. That is exactly how the majority of players would play 86.

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Folding here is still a crime. Push it.

2planka 05-31-2005 12:33 PM

Re: Your play here....
 
Kryo -

If BB has 86 then I lose my stack if my redraw doesn't hit.

The mistakes on the flop are the bigger issue. The OP tried to get cute with a min raise (a pet peeve) and then a pretty straight forward hand got tricky.

He can atone for his flop sins by pushing when the action is back to him. This is the only play, IMO.

If this is a big time MTT then the decision is much tougher. In a SNG structure, though, you have to push this.


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