TPTK against bet and raise
 

no reads, is this a push?
***** Hand History for Game 2114273800 *****
NL Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:12576243 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Friday, May 27, 15:46:33 EDT 2005
Table Table 13941 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: bennylero ( $885 )
Seat 7: ImShtfced ( $790 )
Seat 4: KABnBEDtx ( $1440 )
Seat 9: gabefish ( $1785 )
Seat 2: Iridox1 ( $520 )
Seat 5: newpokerface ( $1370 )
Seat 3: Mills67 ( $1210 )
Trny:12576243 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to gabefish [ Qd Ad ]
ImShtfced calls [30].
gabefish calls [30].
bennylero raises [60].
Iridox1 folds.
Mills67 folds.
KABnBEDtx calls [45].
newpokerface folds.
ImShtfced calls [30].
gabefish calls [30].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qc, 7s, 6d ]
KABnBEDtx checks.
ImShtfced checks.
gabefish checks.
bennylero bets [30].
KABnBEDtx raises [175].
ImShtfced calls [175].
gabefish ?????????

sorry about format, converter butchered it

Re: TPTK against bet and raise
 

Push preflop because of the 200-250 dead money in the pot. Looks like a limp reraise and you don't need AA or KK to do it. Postflop I would probably fold fearing a mid set because how many times are players going to have KQ, 89s etc that you beat. Unless you know for certain that the coldcaller is a fish.

Re: TPTK against bet and raise
 

I would fold it now but I would have raised preflop and bet out the flop

Re: TPTK against bet and raise
 

I don't mind the limp preflop (but then again that could be a limp in my game), but I'm leading out on that flop. After you and there is a bet, raise, and call though I'm not liking TPTK so much. With no raise preflop two pair, or low PP-->Set is quite possible, and since there is only a straight draw out a semi-bluff isn't so likely (and even if the initial raise was a semibluff it was already called).

I may be giving 22 players too much respect though. Maybe people could do this with QK, and QJ, but that is best case scenario for you.

Re: TPTK against bet and raise
 

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Push preflop because of the 200-250 dead money in the pot. Looks like a limp reraise and you don't need AA or KK to do it. Postflop I would probably fold fearing a mid set because how many times are players going to have KQ, 89s etc that you beat. Unless you know for certain that the coldcaller is a fish.

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actually those were the two hands. nice guess [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] do you really think the reraise is viable? he could easily call with a pair or AK, and i'm not sure I want a coinflip here.

Re: TPTK against bet and raise
 

You have 1700 chips and a coinflip would be unfortunate but I think you see a call less than 1-4 with a small pair. IMO if you see ak it won't be from the minraiser