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nsdjoe 05-19-2005 05:46 PM

Would you have folded AK here?
 
No reads available.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (16.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (14.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, BB folds.

River: (17.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 21.25 BB

BottlesOf 05-19-2005 05:49 PM

Re: Would you have folded AK here?
 
Probably. Some kind of any kind of (not a typo) read would make me feel better. FWIW, I cap that flop every time.

milesdyson 05-19-2005 05:51 PM

Re: Would you have folded AK here?
 
River's a good fold as played.

UTG+1 has:

1 KK
3 AA
6 AK

and plays them all the same way... I would bust out a raise on the turn (or cap the flop). Waiting for the turn could be right in a more sizeable field (ie. not raising the first time).

MrWookie47 05-19-2005 05:52 PM

Re: Would you have folded AK here?
 
Without a read that UTG+1 will play QQ this way, your situation on the flop looks grim, but calling down is good. When MP2 wakes up and raises, not only are you likely screwed by his crappy 2 pair, even crappier straight, or slowplayed whatsit, you're probably not good often enough against UTG+1 for what you have to pay to see the showdown. Good fold.

nsdjoe 05-19-2005 05:57 PM

Re: Would you have folded AK here?
 
Get ready to cringe:

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (16.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (14.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, BB folds.

River: (17.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 21.25 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG+1 has Qc Qh (one pair, queens).
MP2 has Td Jd (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 21.25 BB. </font>

istewart 05-19-2005 05:58 PM

Re: Would you have folded AK here?
 
Don't leave the table.

milesdyson 05-19-2005 05:58 PM

Re: Would you have folded AK here?
 
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Results below:
UTG+1 has Qc Qh (one pair, queens).
MP2 has Td Jd (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 21.25 BB.

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No reads available.


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istewart 05-19-2005 06:02 PM

Re: Would you have folded AK here?
 
miles I was picking through the archives last night and you were once a readless monkey as well [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

nsdjoe 05-19-2005 06:08 PM

Re: Would you have folded AK here?
 
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Results below:
UTG+1 has Qc Qh (one pair, queens).
MP2 has Td Jd (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 21.25 BB.

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No reads available.


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Get reads. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Pokertracker has just gotten sufficient hands on these two players to auto rate them: UTG+1 TPP (mouse); MP2 LPP (fish). If you'd had these reads before the hand, what would you have done differently (if any)?

istewart 05-19-2005 06:17 PM

Re: Would you have folded AK here?
 
Probably not just from those PT reads, but had I noticed them donking around majorly, maybe.


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