$20+2 QQ - good lay down?
 

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

Button (t950)
SB (t83)
BB (t1152)
UTG (t740)
UTG+1 (t515)
Hero (t1120)
MP2 (t600)
MP3 (t2170)
CO (t670)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t120</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls t120, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (t285) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t300</font>, Button pushes, Hero ???

Re: $20+2 QQ - good lay down?
 

Yeah, I fold to the push, but I would have also bet less on the flop (maybe 1/2 pot).

Re: $20+2 QQ - good lay down?
 

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Yeah, I fold to the push, but I would have also bet less on the flop (maybe 1/2 pot).

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My thoughts exactly. Part of the reason for betting into him is to find out if he has an ace, so why risk 300 when you can find out for 150. If he doesn't have you beat(he's drawing) the 150 would still give him improper odds to call.

Re: $20+2 QQ - good lay down?
 

i'd probably lay it down if raised, but i only would bet a lil over half the pot to save chips....

bad spot.

Re: $20+2 QQ - good lay down?
 

I agree with others that you should have made a smaller flop bet, but you have to be careful not to make it too small -- you want to get someone with a weaker ace to fold. I would bet at least 200, and probably 225. That's what I would bet if I had AK, which is what I want to represent here.

Re: $20+2 QQ - good lay down?
 

I would bet less, and there is close to ZERO chance you can get a weaker ace to fold this flop. If they are going to call 120 preflop with a weak ace, they are putting all their chips in when their ace comes.

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I would bet less, and there is close to ZERO chance you can get a weaker ace to fold this flop. If they are going to call 120 preflop with a weak ace, they are putting all their chips in when their ace comes.

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agreed 100%

and I would have probably bet even less than half the pot. I would have bet 1/3rd of the pot to find out where you stand.

Re: $20+2 QQ - good lay down?
 

I'de check. Chances are that if he doesn't have the A he will be too scared to bet anyway which will allow me to bet out on the turn and take it down. When I have QQ I am also much more scared of an A on the flop than a K

Re: $20+2 QQ - good lay down?
 

I limp preflop cuz I'm a weak tight bia.