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Perseus 05-17-2005 12:46 AM

Aces in trouble?
 
Both opponents are new to the table...what/s my plan of action on the flop/turn?


Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 (poster) 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP2 calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12.33 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero...

brazilio 05-17-2005 12:53 AM

Re: Aces in trouble?
 
Call and see if MP2 is going to cap?

eric5148 05-17-2005 12:54 AM

Re: Aces in trouble?
 
Fold. You capped pf and you get raised then check/3bet? I put each of them on at least 2 pair.

Klepton 05-17-2005 12:58 AM

Re: Aces in trouble?
 
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Fold. You capped pf and you get raised then check/3bet? I put each of them on at least 2 pair.

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no

call and see what MP2 does and what the turn brings

wrto4556 05-17-2005 01:06 AM

Re: Aces in trouble?
 
I think I like a fold on this flop, too. We might have MP2 beat (he could have AK, KK, or JJ...QQ and TT beat us) but BB's check/3-bet is strong.

BoogieDown 05-17-2005 01:06 AM

Re: Aces in trouble?
 
JJ and KK might play that flop the same way.

sfwusc 05-17-2005 01:12 AM

Re: Aces in trouble?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Both opponents are new to the table...what/s my plan of action on the flop/turn?


Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 (poster) 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP2 calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12.33 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero...

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Hero can fold.

I think we have set over set?

BB has TT
MP2 has QQ

-SFWUSC


edit: BB could have JJ for a open straight draw(he would have some equity with it, but I dont like BB play if he has JJ)

sfwusc 05-17-2005 01:17 AM

Re: Aces in trouble?
 
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I think I like a fold on this flop, too. We might have MP2 beat (he could have AK, KK, or JJ...QQ and TT beat us) but BB's check/3-bet is strong.

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MP2 three bet preflop.....TT, JJ, QQ, KK, AA, AK, AQ (AA is super unlikley and AK/AQ isn't very likely)

BB calls the three bet..... TT, JJ, AK, AQ?, QQ?

Unless they are loose two pair isnt an option. I still think set over set unless their VPIP are high. At 3/6 even the bad players dont play this bad(usually).

-SFWUSC

Solid_p 05-17-2005 07:42 AM

Re: Aces in trouble?
 
Fold.

AA is no good here. Let's see what we're up against:

-MP2: KK, QQ, JJ, TT and AK (less likely) are his most likely hands. QQ and TT gives him a set and JJ a strong draw.

-BB: Two pair or set is likely. If not, an oesd or made straight is possible.

The combined hand ranges of both players makes this a fold. But I don't know if I would do it in the heat of the battle...

27offsooot 05-17-2005 08:26 AM

Re: Aces in trouble?
 
What in the hell is with all of this folding non-sense? Call and see.


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