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nWirb 05-16-2005 06:14 PM

Am I not slowplaying enough? KK @ the 33s
 
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter

BB (t1505)
UTG (t1230)
UTG+1 (t450)
MP1 (t705)
MP2 (t1350)
CO (t945)
Hero (t725)
SB (t1090)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t70</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t140</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t110, MP2 calls t70.

Flop: (t435) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero is all-In 585, BB folds, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: t1020

sabre170 05-16-2005 06:15 PM

Re: Am I not slowplaying enough? KK @ the 33s
 
Looks good to me. You would have made less, possibly lost, if you had slowplayed.

Maulik 05-16-2005 07:01 PM

Re: Am I not slowplaying enough? KK @ the 33s
 
as a rule of thumb, i like tripling raises.

chisness 05-16-2005 07:04 PM

Re: Am I not slowplaying enough? KK @ the 33s
 
Definitely be happy with that. If you bet and a scare card comes, you don't want to lose your stack or be forced to fold! If one of them has AJ, KJ, QJ, or TJ, you'll likely be taking all their chips here as well.

jgunnip 05-16-2005 07:06 PM

Re: Am I not slowplaying enough? KK @ the 33s
 
There's nothing wrong with this hand, you played it fine. Your chip stack increased ~30% and you've given yourself plenty of ammunition to work with over the next few rounds. I used to wonder if I should have slowed played high pairs or if I played them too agressively but I'm finally beginning to accept that holding AA or KK is not an automatic license to double or triple up when they come around. You picked up a nice pot here.

jeffraider 05-16-2005 07:07 PM

Re: Am I not slowplaying enough? KK @ the 33s
 
Why not bet 200 or so and make a few bucks? The board isn't completely safe but it's definitely not all that terrifying.

Degen 05-16-2005 07:09 PM

Re: Am I not slowplaying enough? KK @ the 33s
 
or more...

might as well make this one HUGE and hope to isolate this guy, and nearly force him to call it all on the flop.

Terrific over bet on that flop, I love that move.


Andre

nWirb 05-16-2005 07:13 PM

Re: Am I not slowplaying enough? KK @ the 33s
 
[ QUOTE ]
There's nothing wrong with this hand, you played it fine. Your chip stack increased ~30% and you've given yourself plenty of ammunition to work with over the next few rounds. I used to wonder if I should have slowed played high pairs or if I played them too agressively but I'm finally beginning to accept that holding AA or KK is not an automatic license to double or triple up when they come around. You picked up a nice pot here.

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This is my normal line, and I'm quite happy about winning this pot right here, but I have seen other players take other lines in these types of scenarios.
As jeffraider pointed out it's a decently non scaring board, so I'm thinking not extracting more value here (betting like 100/checking to induce a bluff or raising like 1/2 the pot) might be a small leak.

Thoughts?

KingDan 05-16-2005 07:24 PM

Re: Am I not slowplaying enough? KK @ the 33s
 
[ QUOTE ]
as a rule of thumb, i like tripling raises.

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He's made a believer out of me, in a lot of instances.

Maulik 05-16-2005 07:28 PM

Re: Am I not slowplaying enough? KK @ the 33s
 
[ QUOTE ]
or more...

might as well make this one HUGE and hope to isolate this guy, and nearly force him to call it all on the flop.

Terrific over bet on that flop, I love that move.


Andre

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the only correct bet in my OPINION here is an allin


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